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    #1
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    Sea of green, Explanation

    Hi everyone, this is my first post on this website, So i apologize if this question has been asked a 100 times already!

    Im a long time smoker and have tryed my hand at growing before with variable success. I'm preparing a personal use grow op, I have 6 400w HPS, and I would like to use the SOG technique. Im thinking of using a 'cheese' plant as i have bought it and love it :rasta: but where i live it sells at £10 per gram. My question(s) are:

    1: 6 x 400w HPS with lots of space but limited height, how many plants would be reccomended under these lights? or how many M2 and how many plants per M2?

    2: The seeds im looking to buy say they produce 700grams per m2 and a height of 40-80cm, this doesnt seem possible to me. Does anyone know how these seed companys produce this amount or even if its possible?

    Thanks for reading and hi everyone :thumbsup:
    wannabe123 Reviewed by wannabe123 on . Sea of green, Explanation Hi everyone, this is my first post on this website, So i apologize if this question has been asked a 100 times already! Im a long time smoker and have tryed my hand at growing before with variable success. I'm preparing a personal use grow op, I have 6 400w HPS, and I would like to use the SOG technique. Im thinking of using a 'cheese' plant as i have bought it and love it :rasta: but where i live it sells at £10 per gram. My question(s) are: 1: 6 x 400w HPS with lots of space but Rating: 5

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    #2
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    Sea of green, Explanation

    well, a good rule is 50w per square foot....so if you have 6 400w lights, you can cover about 48 square feet....that is a lot of space! depending on what type of growing you are doing, you can get alot of plants in that space. You can get at least 1 plant per square ft.

    700 grams per plant is really high expectations....that breaks down to 1 lb, 10oz....that's alot of weed! Maybe if it's grown outdoors, but you are not going to get that per plant on an indoor grow. :jointsmile:

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    #3
    Junior Member

    Sea of green, Explanation

    :thumbsup: thanks for the prompt reply .. It did seem very high but i thought there must be some truth behind it. So if i had 48 plants in 48 square feet using the SoG tech under 4 x 600w hps what is a realistic dry weight? I know it depends on ALOT of variables but as a ballpark figure.

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    #4
    Senior Member

    Sea of green, Explanation

    no problem.....i absolutely think you can get 48 plants in a 48sq foot space. The only thing to really consider with that is that's going to be alot of maintenance. That's 48 plants to feed, trim, check ph, etc.....but yeah, if you are up for it, i say do it! :jointsmile:

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    #5
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    Sea of green, Explanation

    Quote Originally Posted by moody420
    no problem.....i absolutely think you can get 48 plants in a 48sq foot space. The only thing to really consider with that is that's going to be alot of maintenance. That's 48 plants to feed, trim, check ph, etc.....but yeah, if you are up for it, i say do it! :jointsmile:
    Just think about what the buds from 48 plants would look like in one pile. That thought alone would get me through every second of work. :rasta:

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    #6
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    Sea of green, Explanation

    A breeders marketing description of yield and characteristics is usually based on the equipment and experience of the breeder. Usually 1000 watters, fully automated hydro, and an experience with the strain that's unlikley to be equaled by the part-time gardener. (your results may vary)

    A growroom that crammed is difficult to maintain. Unless you have access from all sides, you'll be moving those ladies around every day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Faddenator
    Just think about what the buds from 48 plants would look like in one pile. That thought alone would get me through every second of work. :rasta:
    For most, it would look like a felony. :jointsmile:

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    #7
    Senior Member

    Sea of green, Explanation

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
    A breeders marketing description of yield and characteristics is usually based on the equipment and experience of the breeder. Usually 1000 watters, fully automated hydro, and an experience with the strain that's unlikley to be equaled by the part-time gardener. (your results may vary)

    A growroom that crammed is difficult to maintain. Unless you have access from all sides, you'll be moving those ladies around every day.


    For most, it would look like a felony. :jointsmile:
    I have to agree with Rusty. I've read a LOT over the last few months and one plant per square foot is really packing them in. Most books, threads and articles say each plant should get 2.5 square feet.

    So 48 square feet should be more like 19.2 plants, NOT counting space used for other equipment like fans, or a place to walk through.

    Also I've never read the space/wattage calculation stated above before. What I have seen is,.. Optimum light is 5000 lumens per square foot. With 6 400w lights, that works out to 70.2 cubic feet! NOT 48!:wtf:
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    #8
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    Sea of green, Explanation

    i would put 6 400w HPS's over a 6' x 9' area,fill the area with 136 clones in3/4 gal pots and expect to yield at least 900 grams off of plants that are no more than 24 inches tall.Iwould expect to increse yield 25% to 50% on the next run as i tweak it out . inexperienced growers may yield 100 grams or less in the same area.i would need a 4'x4' mother room/area , a 2'x4' clone chamber and room to move around all this stuff .it is A LOT of work to keep this many plants happy and you need to ask yourself "do i need this much pot at one time?"if your grow is for personal use than may i suggest that you answer NO?Grow for quality not yield. one 400w could yield as much as 200 grams ever 8 weeks and provide one person with meds, two 400w HPS's 3 to 4 people. Remember, as your garden grows in size so does the chance that someone will want to take it away from you while at the same time it becomes harder and harder to hide.Be careful, start small .

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    #9
    Senior Member

    Sea of green, Explanation

    look up "limbo grow videos" in youtube. (anyone that reads this should) His grows are so good. I think it would give you an idea of what you want to do. His SOG style is crazy. He packs plants in this room and floods the entire room. He can't even get to the plants in the back. Go check it out.

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    Sea of green, Explanation


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