My SCROG brings all the boys to the yard? Blue Widow/T5/E&F

[demoreal]

This is the most efficient T5 grow I have ever seen. Nice job.

[demoreal]

I had the problem of my pump running dry when growing few plants in a large tray. The way I fixed it was by putting 2 liter coke bottles filled with yeast and sugar in the tray. That way when I water it takes less water to fill the tray. I also got the benefit of a slight increase in co2. Just an idea so you do not have to worry about the system running dry.
For you gallon milk jugs would work better. Even just with water if you do not like the co2 idea.

[bertoxxulous]

Bongojaz
o.k. bert, here goes. i don't know if anyone has told you, or if you know or not. you've made a huge mistake in your scrog, which is going to cost you "huge" in the yield department! although your grow is very, very nice. it could be 2wice as nice! when doing a scrog, you need to veg your plant(s) into the screen before you put the plant(s) under the screen. what you want to do is pull the growth tips back under the screen (in veg) and position them to empty parts of the screen, filling it up. once it's around 80% filled, you flip it to flower. fill the rest of the screen in flower and you'll have so much bud you won't know what to do with it! you also want to cut off all of the foliage beneath the screen as it fills, since it won't be getting any light anyways once it fills up. here's a cut and paste job that explains scrogs better than i can. greenmonster is "the" scrog master!!!

Yea, I'm not very happy with how it turned out with me not filling my trellis all the way up. The info on this breed says it doubles in size when flopped 12/12 and if you look at my first set of pictures, it looks like the plant is filling about 40% of the trellis when I changed to flowering. I think I'm getting an idea how I'm going to do my next grow based off how this girl turned out cause I'm prolly going to do this strain again.

subzero
Anyways..... Bert add the calmag and any other additives first manufacturers instructions( low end in my experience) then bring your ppm up to target with your base nutes. Don't put your ph tester in pure ro water it will fuck it up. Ro water has no potential hydrogen, it takes on the ph of the impuries you are adding(sort of) ie nutes. Now, if you get defficencies next run with ro or ph is unstable, try adding back about 20 % waste water. I know, I know contamInate your precious ro.... But cannabis needs other micronutrients that are naturally in tap. Rather than trying to chase defficencies you put a little of everything back in the solution. Helps buffer the ro as well.
This is what my hydro guy suggested aparantly aquarium people do this as well. IMHO 300 ppm tap should be ok without ro filteration( you did say your tap was 300 didn't you?) but it's your pesos not mine. My ro unit is somewhere in the shed. I'm back to tap as I can't justify all the waste water and time farting about with it. I did a couple of ionic runs after your last thread. Totally underated stuff man, as good as anything else out there.
Read as much as you can about ro water, it can throw you a curve if you ain't careful.
Ttfn
Subzero

Thanks for the valuable info yet again Sub. Speaking about my PH pen, it started doing something weird where when I first put it in the water it drops to like 5.5/5.4 and then comes back to what my PH should be, generally 5.9. It just started happening recently, maybe even since I started using R/O water....I can't remember. About tap, last time I was at the grow store the guys there said that everyone was complaining about there water recently, everyone was having problems and we are all off the same water facility.

demoreal
1) This is the most efficient T5 grow I have ever seen. Nice job.

2) I had the problem of my pump running dry when growing few plants in a large tray. The way I fixed it was by putting 2 liter coke bottles filled with yeast and sugar in the tray. That way when I water it takes less water to fill the tray. I also got the benefit of a slight increase in co2. Just an idea so you do not have to worry about the system running dry.
For you gallon milk jugs would work better. Even just with water if you do not like the co2 idea.

1) Thanks alot!
2) Man thats a great idea, I can't believe I didn't thing of something like that....that could really help on my next grow too because I was wanting to use my 20 gallon reservoir instead of the 40 gallon I'm using right now but still be able to use the same flood table.

[Bongojaz]

berto, you should be very happy, those babies look bomb to me!!!

[drudown11]

hehe I have the same light as you, just the 2x4 version.

I see that you have some red bulbs in your t5 fixture. Did you use that in veg too, or did you use all blue. I was thinking about picking up a couple of red bulbs and alternating them in the fixture like you did. I would assume that the plants would grow better with the complete spectrum of light.

[bertoxxulous]

Bongojaz:
berto, you should be very happy, those babies look bomb to me!!!

Hey Thanks! I just feel like I should be getting more yeild...I don't know...lol

drudown11:
hehe I have the same light as you, just the 2x4 version.

I see that you have some red bulbs in your t5 fixture. Did you use that in veg too, or did you use all blue. I was thinking about picking up a couple of red bulbs and alternating them in the fixture like you did. I would assume that the plants would grow better with the complete spectrum of light.

Thats exactly why I did the alternating red/blue...and yes I've used it that way since the plant has been in my tent (I've got a closet where I've got a small 180W blue light ballast while they are in seed/cloning stage).
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Alrighty, here are the Week 8 Pics. Week 8 officially ended on Teusday April 27th, 2010. These pictures were taken today. Also today, I cleaned both my flood table and reservoir and put in straight up R/O water. Why? Last night I checked my trichomes and I'm sitting right at or close to 10% amber. I prefer more of a head buzz instead of the couch lock so I'm not going for too much amber here. I do have a question for everybody, becuase I'm not honestly sure....how long should I be flushing this plant in hyrdo set up like this with R/O water? I know soil is what...2 weeks maybe? Little less?

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[subzero]

Hey Bert, 7 - 10 days, more if you like.
But the ro will leach the nutrients better than tap.
Lookin' good.
Subzero

[raizla]

Hey man, the ladies look amazing. I think you did a great job. :thumbsup: I'm just a couple weeks behind you (on week 5 now) and growing with T5's as well. You've definitely got one of the best setups of the grow logs I've seen. I don't see any reason to change over to an HPS unless one was to go commercial. So overall you're happy with the E&F system? I'm thinking I'll play it safe with dirt again for my next grow.

[bertoxxulous]

subzero:
Hey Bert, 7 - 10 days, more if you like.
But the ro will leach the nutrients better than tap.
Lookin' good.
Subzero

Thanks alot for the info man, I flushed them for 7 days on the dot.

raizla
Hey man, the ladies look amazing. I think you did a great job. I'm just a couple weeks behind you (on week 5 now) and growing with T5's as well. You've definitely got one of the best setups of the grow logs I've seen. I don't see any reason to change over to an HPS unless one was to go commercial. So overall you're happy with the E&F system? I'm thinking I'll play it safe with dirt again for my next grow.

Good luck on your grow, mine totalled 9 weeks and 2 days. E&F, I like it ok...I think the downside is the flooding large tables like that, you have to use alot more water and such. However a previous poster mentioned putting stuff in the flood table to fill up space so you can end up using less water to water your plants with which would make it easier....although cleaning may be a pain in the ass I don't know...maybe next grow I'll try something out.

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Well here are the pics of the plant chopped up...I'm seriously thinking we may have as much or possibly more this time than my last grow with 3 plants...however those plants got lots of toxic offgasing abuse (btw everyone subzero was the one that came and rescued me there....I had tried what I thought was everything...and sub told me about the PVC offgassing and...although it was a total whore trying to get the tents off the shell I said fuck it because I was about to just give up on growing....but they turned around in days.) :hippy:

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[subzero]

Nice bert, next time you Harvest, if you aren't in a hurry to get more plants into your tank, cut the buds as they ripen rather than chop the lot. Those bottom buds (light green ones) will blue up like the colas and will probably double in size in an extra week or so.
Nice work man.
Subzero.