Loose Change-911 was an inside job.

[CanGroIt]

By whom and regarding what? The government official version is validated by eyewitness testimony I posted right here. Which eye witness is right and which is wrong? I'll go with the ones I've stated right here.

I'm sure you already saw this thread------> http://boards.cannabis.com/conspirac...ve-9-11-a.html

I like the part where the firemen are talking about hearing explosions as they were falling......like around 1min & 36sec or so....in the first vid....

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[Purple Daddy]

The problem is you can't deny the obvious, such as what people have seen with their own eyes.

The entire conspiracy must flow together, there is no doubt a plane crashed into the pentagon, absolutely certifiable evidence exists as I posted. This alone would debunk the entire conspiracy theory.

There isn't a single shred of evidence to suggest a missle was fired at the pentagon and in fact the exact opposite evidence exists proving it was a passenger jet.

You expect me to believe because of a conversation you had with a cabbie in Kuwait that 9/11 was conspired to overthrow the Iraqi economy? You actually believe our own president conspired to fly a plane into the White House?

[Purple Daddy]

Clever video however it also contradicts itself, it suggests the government denied building 7 existed yet the final few clips they say it was from fire. A three second clip of an audio recording claiming to be Rumsfeld??

Come on now, you have to have something better then that?

Are there really 1400 experts who disagree with the governments findings with facts to back it up? Are there really 1400 experts who disagree in the first place? They don't name or list them. ANYONE can produce a home made video with vague theories and suggestions but again the problem is they offer no answers.

You are asking me to believe the government loaded those buildings with explosives while being totally undetected by WTC security. Morgan Stanley ran security for the WTC, their director of security had evacuation drills for Morgan Stanley employees every three months since the 93 bombing attempt. He was in charge of every thing that went on in those towers, his name was Rick Rescorla and he died rescuing Morgan Stanley employees, because of his efforts all but 4 of Morgan Stanley employees survived the tower collapse, Rick Rescorla was not one of the survivors. Go watch the documentary "The Man Who Predicted 9/11" then tell me it was a conspiracy.

[CanGroIt]

Just because a good man with a good heart was the director of security, does not mean that the gov, at the very highest levels, wouldn't be motivated to do something like this... If you haven't been paying attention, wall street has been running our government since the Reagan days.... When has empathy, in the wall street business world, ever gotten in the way of greed? I'd have an answer for you, if I had an example.... And it's not only wall street that run it, big banks have their finger in the pie too. Now, I'm not saying that they were all in on it, nor do I have a shred of proof who was, but it is possible for something like this to occur at the very highest levels....and I'm talking higher than the president....

Cause if you haven't been paying attention, our presidents, since JFK, haven't done shit for the people and have succumb to big business....

If you're making millions upon millions each year, you are not in touch with the general publics reality.... Big business looks and treats the general public like commodities.... Big pharmacy wants to treat us and suck every penny out before we eventually expire because of their "treatment".... They don't care about us and would easily and readily do anything to expand their pockets, even at the expense of the general public......kinda like royalty would treat the townsmen.... History repeats itself, doesn't matter how much technology we have, man will never change....and it's sad to say but this world needs evil in order for good to exist....balance is what this world is all about....

We obviously aren't going to ever agree on this subject....but we can agree that we both don't know what really happened....

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[Purple Daddy]

We obviously aren't going to ever agree on this subject....but we can agree that we both don't know what really happened....
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Actually, I think I know pretty much what happened or at least the official version seems very, very probably and enough for me to accept and I'm considered by most to be a skeptic. We may not agree BUT I've clearly stated points of references including the names of eye witnesses and nobody else has produced anything other then speculation. While I respect your post here it really has nothing to do with the subject or proving a point. Suggesting something else could have happened is easy but to actually provide points of references to prove your point is another. A couple of short video clips edited for their dramatic presentation are hardly good enough to convince me of anything and I highly doubt that was Donald Rumsfield on that audio tape. Those firemen had never experienced a building collapse of that magnitude, in fact nobody ever has so who knows what kind of sounds and/or explosions might be created when 110 stories come crashing down. Those buildings have utilities including flammables which would ignite in a fire. A five second clip of some anonymous firemen going "boom, boom, boom" played over and over is hardly convincing and only used for dramatic effect.

The point I was making regarding Rick Rescorla was that NOTHING was going on inside those towers without his advanced knowledge, he had full free reign of all security matters within the WTC complex. Nobody was going to wire or plant explosives in quantity enough to bring down those buildings without him knowing about it. This guy was so concerned about an attack from the air that he advised Morgan Stanley to relocate to a 10 story building in New Jersey, when they refused because of lease agreements he began running drills every three months for almost 8 years, these drills saved the lives of 3700 people. Do you REALLY think this guy would have been blind to both his buildings being set up for demolition? Come on man, use some common sense.

[CanGroIt]

Covert operations are exactly that, covert.... And YES I do think that it is possible for explosives to be planted without his knowledge.... When it comes down to it, civilians are lazy and take other peoples word for things. I could go into so many scenarios where he could have been told one thing and believe that what he is being told is true.... Spouses cheat on their significant others while their significant other is nonetheless suspicious.... So yes, I do believe it could have happened even though this man reigned over security....

I could be on the net all day and look for specific examples of where stories contradict each other, with names and links and all that. Instead, I'm going to show you a scientific/physics point of view....

Here's a video of a controlled demolition------> YouTube - ‪coolest building implosion‬‏

Does it look similar to anything you've seen before? Maybe similar to the way that the WTC buildings came down? But if we were to use the example of the WTC buildings falling in the manner in which they did, then review the video of the controlled demolition, we would have to conclude that the building in the video of the controlled demolition had to have been hit with a plane, or similar force at a similar location, to have toppled the way that it did, no? Or should it be the other way around?

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[Purple Daddy]

And YES I do think that it is possible for explosives to be planted without his knowledge.... >>>>

How? Did you watch the documentary on this person? Do you know anything about him? I watched the whole thing and nothing was going on in those towers without his advanced knowledge, for Christ sake it was his job and he did emergency evacuation drills every three months for years, hardly the sign of a lazy person and in fact he was obsessed with his job.

Again you suggest nothing but pure speculation...It's possible aliens shot the buildings down with laser beams, I mean nobody ever said they never saw any alien space craft and they would probably have the technology to fly under radar. HHHHMMMM, maybe I'm on to something here?

[CanGroIt]

My point was that just because someone is good at what they do doesn't mean that a small number of people could not enter the building without his knowledge. Shoot, they could have entered with his permission to do "maintenance" or "painting" or "so much more other chiz that could be named as having a prob and needing to be fixed". Not saying he was directly lazy, just saying that, in general, civilians are lazy....

I posted the video as the quickest form of "common sense" that I could find.... But you obviously trust your government.... That's why G Bush put Henry Kissinger in charge of the 9/11 commission. Yes he resigned months later but that was due to the outcry of Henry Kissingers past devious actions against society for governmental benefits....

You go ahead and trust your government PD.... I on the other hand will not.... I, as a patriot, joined the military to protect and defend our constitution and way of life.... It wasn't until I was used for other than patriotic motivations that I decided that my government wasn't truthful to it's people....

Benjamin Franklin said it best when he said, "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

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(Time for me to step away from this conversation)

[Trip06]

Absurd is an opinion, Demolitions Experts have stated its 100% fact they were demolitions. Free fall speed, means all the floors are cut at the EXACT same time, no If ands or butts, straight FACT. Im sorry to say but Fire, or faulty construction materials, or planes, ect ect WILL NEVER be that precise. They fell straight down Inside their own foot print...NEVER in the history of the world has ANY building ever done that other than demolitions...Thats what demos DO. The first two towers were demoed right as the debri from the top starts to crumble...At that point you can clearly see that the bottom floors Give out at the Exact same time. WHY ON GODS GREEN EARTH WAS BUILDING 7 NOT EVEN MENTIONED IN A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION?>???WTF ABSURD ABSURD ABSURD ABSURD....WHY IS SECRETARY OF DEFENCE DONALD RUMPSFELD GOING AROUND Town& cityhall meetings telling people It never Existed?> REALLY?

[Purple Daddy]

But you obviously trust your government....>>>>>>

Please don't put words in my mouth, I believe what I see and hear with my own two eyes and ears and I don't take anything at face value, I prefer to make my own conclusions and not let zelots pursuade me of some kind of bizzare happening.