liberal isn't a bad word,it's alot more gentle than right wing extremist?i agree with the old way of teaching and will no doubt spank my child when they need it.no doubt about that.there are to many soft parents out there.i believe thats why we have so many annoying kids running around who have never been told no or punished.i used to dread my grandmother telling me to go out in the back yard and get a stick.OUCH!!!.it was always yes ma'am and no sir around my house.respect.