Saying Goodbye to the Pope

[Torog]

Howdy Lulu,

Yer right..we could go on all day about this subject...lol. Thanx for trying to understand my point of view too Maybe I'm just too old-school...for these here 'modern' times...lol.

Have a good one !

[Euphoric]

Howdy Lulu,

Yer right..we could go on all day about this subject...lol. Thanx for trying to understand my point of view too Maybe I'm just too old-school...for these here 'modern' times...lol.

Have a good one !

yes you are extinct

[Torog]

yes you are extinct

Howdy Euphoric,

Well dang...I guess that confirms it then...lol..I'm just an old,gray-haired stoner..out of touch with these here modern times..in a world turned upside down by liberals...lol.

Have a good one...

[F L E S H]

I would also like to add..IMHO..that children need to be children..and not have to decide their sexual orientation,nor be encouraged to experiment sexually,between K-12..some schools in California,have encouraged kindergarden aged children,to experiment with masturbation and oral sex..as a way of discovering their sexuality. Children should be allowed to just be children..not forced to make decisions that an adult should make.

That's absolutemly correct, but I think that should include all talk about religion too. When children are too young, they don't understand and just blindly believe what people tell them.

No sex talk before 14-15? Agreed, but also no God-talk before 14-15, when people are old enough to understand and after can make a conscious decision about their beliefs, rather than having them forced on them.

[amsterdam]

being taught religon young can't even be put in the same ballpark as being taught masturbation when your real young.lol

[weirdo79]

I wouldnt say your old school bout it Torog, you believe in what your conservative thought process tells you to think. No worries. The thing I take acception to only in your posts is the following

" God destroyed Sodom and Gommorah,because of rampant sexual deviancy and God also said"A man shal not lay with another man,as he would his wife",given those 2 facts..do you believe that it's okay for there to be gay priests..even if they are celibate ?"

I know i've told you on Marihemp and proved it empirically but the bible is not a history book , its a novel. There is zero neutral archeological evidence for 90% of the events. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of the opening of a new city that changed the trade route and slowly the cities became deserted as they were now off the trade route.

Also god said and DID alot of stuff that doesnt fit in or mesh with the rest of the bible, its filled with contradictory sentences meandering passages and outright falsehoods. Suffice to say it was written by a bunch of mysogynistic men and nothing more. Simply trying to enforce their will upon the "sheeple".

Dont forget according to the bible god killed 70,000 men women and children just because they had one non believer in their village....Also apparently when the ark was about to fall over and be broken a man stepped from the crowd to steady it.(helpful eh) Problem was god smote him for touching the ark....I guess he would have preferred it broke....It's a storybook nothing more. A rather bad one at that, full of vengeance pettiness and outright controlling behaviour(dont forget selling daughters who have been raped to the one who raped them....yeah thats a great rule god....)

[Torog]

That's absolutemly correct, but I think that should include all talk about religion too. When children are too young, they don't understand and just blindly believe what people tell them.

No sex talk before 14-15? Agreed, but also no God-talk before 14-15, when people are old enough to understand and after can make a conscious decision about their beliefs, rather than having them forced on them.

Howdy FLESH,

Glad you agree about the sex talk part..but you're wrong,in my opinion,about children and the Bible..being children,they must obey their parents,if their parents wish to instill religious belief in children at an early age-that's the parent's choice-not the child's. Teaching children the Gospel of Christ..does make them better individuals with a clearly defined morality..not the pick and choose,infinite shades of morality..that you prefer . Children are becoming increasingly confused about themselves and what their roles and duties are in society-because of all of the amoral relativism coming from the Left.

Most 14 and 15 year old kids, still aren't capable of making good decisions,whether it's about sex or religion. Most kids,don't have a clue as to what's good for them,their hormones are raging,their bodies still growing and they don't have the maturity to make what should be adult decisions.

Have a good one ...

[amsterdam]

that's why my kids are gonna go to private school.

[F L E S H]

that's why my kids are gonna go to private school.

THat's the best thing you could do for them.

Teaching children the Gospel of Christ..does make them better individuals with a clearly defined morality..not the pick and choose,infinite shades of morality..that you prefer . Children are becoming increasingly confused about themselves and what their roles and duties are in society-because of all of the amoral relativism coming from the Left.

First of all, as I have told you a few times already, I'm not a Leftist, but whatever...

Knowing the Gospels does NOT automatically make you a better person. There's no infinite shades of gray in morality system, there's concern for other people, and there's a willingness to know what they think and why when they act. Is that so unreasonable?

And children are not confused because of the Left. Neither are they because of the Right. Do you know how involved children are in politics? Not very many. Do you know how many actually care? Judging from the voting numbers of young people, not very many. Fact is, the problems with today's youth do not stem from themselves, or all the 'evil influences' like sex, violence, etc, etc, but from the parents. I swear, I think humankind in North America has forgotten how to bring up children since the eighties. But that's another discussion for another topic...

[amsterdam]

my kids are gonna learn about god and religon,they are gonna say the pledge ,learn about the declaration of independence,the founding fathers(good and bad),play dodgeball,and have their papers graded in RED ink.