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[bigtopsfinn]

It's a good question

If you can: give it enough light, fresh air, good temperatures (below 85F), then indoor is probably better.

Total 240w of CFL should give you something decent. Outdoors will give you the biggest yield, but you have to worry more about bugs, animals, people stealing your shit, etc.., so better to go indoors and keep it there.

See how it goes for the next couple weeks. Check other people's grow logs and see how they grew with CFL's. You might also want to look into doing some kind of training, like LST (low stress training).

Happy growing :jointsmile:

[miguetronix]

is the plant too tall to start lst or you can start whenever you want???
i am worried of cracking the main stem, how much should i bend it
thanks

[bigtopsfinn]

Should be ok. Do it a few hours after watering. And don't try to bend too much at once. It takes a couple weeks to see the significant results from LST.

Breaking branches is always a risk with training. If the branch does snap, use a stick and some tape to straighten it and hold it together, most times the plant will heal.

[Vancefish]

Your a little tall and stiff to LST the main stem AT soil level I think. However you look to have a lot of extra stick down there too.

I'd suggest re potting. Although you answered the container size question with nothing but a question mark.:wtf: It also looks to be a sizable pot, but pics are deceiving. When/IF you repot, you can trim off those lower leaves and bury the plant deep, thus burying nodes that have no leaves. All that excess stem will grow roots once buried. Plus it'll be easier to bend what is left above the soil.

Once you have all that excess stem in the dirt, start bending little by little to expose side shoots to light. In turn they will grow into branches to tie back. Then undergrowth on the branches will grow into more branches to tie back. Once the plants top reaches the edge of the pot, start tying it around the pot.

It'll grow to look like this,..

[miguetronix]

guys i have bad news
when i was trying to LST i f***d it up and this is what happend (pic)
one of the two new main colas snaped totally
i am worried and dont know what will happen
plz tell me that its not to bad and that its going to gro the cola back

[Vancefish]

It will not grow it back. It will put energy that WAS going to that branch into another branch.

Think of it this way. If a deer walked up to this plant in the wild and ate a branch, do you think this WEED would keel over dead?

Probably not!

I also had another thought(still wondering about your pot size). Instead of bending the plant this late. Re-pot it AT an angle! :thumbsup: Then just worry about bending the softer new growth.

[moody420]

Your a little tall and stiff to LST the main stem AT soil level I think. However you look to have a lot of extra stick down there too.

I'd suggest re potting. Although you answered the container size question with nothing but a question mark.:wtf: It also looks to be a sizable pot, but pics are deceiving. When/IF you repot, you can trim off those lower leaves and bury the plant deep, thus burying nodes that have no leaves. All that excess stem will grow roots once buried. Plus it'll be easier to bend what is left above the soil.

Once you have all that excess stem in the dirt, start bending little by little to expose side shoots to light. In turn they will grow into branches to tie back. Then undergrowth on the branches will grow into more branches to tie back. Once the plants top reaches the edge of the pot, start tying it around the pot.

It'll grow to look like this,..

Damn Vancefish....that baby is looking good! How long did you veg to get it so bushy? I like your technique....:jointsmile:


and to miguetronix - your plant has alot of stretch, and very few nodes. I would either just work on vegging it out for awhile or use this as experience and try again. It's all about trial and error and you will learn more and more with every grow cycle. Good luck to you! :jointsmile:

[Vancefish]

Damn Vancefish....that baby is looking good! How long did you veg to get it so bushy? I like your technique....:jointsmile:


and to miguetronix - your plant has alot of stretch, and very few nodes. I would either just work on vegging it out for awhile or use this as experience and try again. It's all about trial and error and you will learn more and more with every grow cycle. Good luck to you! :jointsmile:

No reason to kill it.:jointsmile: I just think it needs a deep burying(at an angle), then tie back new growth every second or third node as it branches out, and keep the lights close. If using CFL's keep them within three inches of the plant to avoid stretch.

I started three plants on December 15th (ish). Then due to not having the HPS yet, I veg'd them until Febuary 20th. Here's a link to see the entire grow log and processes I used.

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...rial-grow.html

Here is the link I read to learn LST:

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...ining-lst.html

This is my first full grow(not counting that thing in my high school closet I killed) 95% of which I learned on this site.

[miguetronix]

the actual pot size is 8.5 inches in diameter is it good or it needs a bigger pot
for the soil should i use regular soil or the one that comes with nutrients and forget about feeding it?
thanks

[bigtopsfinn]

No problem with snapping it, people do it on purpose all the time. Topping should benefit you in this case.

Probably doesn't need a new pot yet, but if you're worried about it just check the roots. Wait until the soil is mostly dry, place your hand on top of the soil turn upside-down, and slide the pot off. Be careful not to break up the root-ball.

Eventually you will need 3-5 gal pots, depending on how big it gets. I would also bury it down a little once you do transplant.

For the soil, you will have to fertilize eventually, because the fertilizer in soils will run out within 4 weeks after planting/transplanting. Cannabis-specific nutrients work the best, but you can find similar ones that will work also.