If Growers were licensed...what then?

[MEDEDCANNABIS]

Yeah. The reason why, in most industries, wholesalers are licensed separately from retailers is because it's necessary for the collection of sales tax. Since business to business sales are not taxed, the state needs to know which businesses sell retail and which sell to other businesses. The dispensaries will get a tax ID number, while the wholesalers get an exemption. Meanwhile, the vast majority of us, with six plants in our closets, won't be impacted at all, since we're neither required to be licensed as growers nor taxed.

the key issue with wholesaling is the plant count. they want them to have the patients to justify how many plants they can have. the problem...then is that they become caregivers and dipensaries not wholesalers. mobius stri[p with these idiots. i watch with intensity though so i can realize my dream

meded so you c an mededicate to mededitate

[MEDEDCANNABIS]

Anything that is filed and recorded (like business licenses) are public records with very few exceptions (like personal or confidential information), which I doubt will include growing operations. Even though it looks somewhat encouraging for dispensaries, it does not seem so for growers who are some of the favorite targets of the Fed despite state regulations. I am naive in thinking that the Fed will ever come around...they (especially the DEA) are rabid in their crusade to eradicate the alleged evils of marijuana - just take a look at their website.

In as much as I would like to be open about growing without the attendant fear and paranoia, until some miracle occurs on the Fed level, I reckon it be prudent to stay low...the low-life.

preach it!! you know they are just lurking on here and steps behind every day. TRAITORS.

meded so you can mededicate to mededitate

[copobo]

until mj is removed as a schedule I drug, the state legitimization is useless.

If the DEA wants to kick in your door, they will. And going legit is what's gotten at least 2 labs busted.

Don't stand up and have your grow counted, unless you like more excitement than most...

[HighPopalorum]

Don't stand up and have your grow counted, unless you like more excitement than most..

You are over reacting because you don't understand. No one has to register their grow except for dispensaries, who will be required to grow most of their own medicine. If you don't operate a medical marijuana center, you don't need the cultivation license. In fact, you can't even apply for it.

[colagal]

You are over reacting because you don't understand. No one has to register their grow except for dispensaries, who will be required to grow most of their own medicine. If you don't operate a medical marijuana center, you don't need the cultivation license. In fact, you can't even apply for it.

Except in the case of the new proposal, i.e., separate licenses for marijuana- growing facilities tied to dispensaries, whatever that means.

the key issue with wholesaling is the plant count. they want them to have the patients to justify how many plants they can have. the problem...then is that they become caregivers and dipensaries not wholesalers. mobius stri[p with these idiots. i watch with intensity though so i can realize my dream

This is the key, if the grower tie-in to the dispensary meant that the grower "shares" patients with the dispensary, then the grower would not have to be a caregiver per se, but licensed nonetheless. I just don't see the feasibility in dispensaries being able to grow 75-90% of their meds, edibles, etc., without some kind of contingency in the event demand exceeded supply, i.e., having access to growers. Can you imagine pharmacies manufacturing their meds? I would never go to Walgreens again, mostly because they would never have anything, not to mention that whatever they did have would be poop.

[copobo]

You are over reacting because you don't understand. No one has to register their grow except for dispensaries, who will be required to grow most of their own medicine. If you don't operate a medical marijuana center, you don't need the cultivation license. In fact, you can't even apply for it.

I do understand, thanks. We are talking about commercial growing. Guys that drop off extra meds to dispensaries. contract growers.

Do you really think licensing will save a grow from the feds if they feel like taking you out?

Do you think they wont be kicking in the doors of non-commercial growers to do some counting, to make sure they are getting their license money?

this is an Law Enforcement Bill, & don't you forget it!

[HighPopalorum]

We are talking about commercial growing. Guys that drop off extra meds to dispensaries. contract growers.

No... we're talking about dispensaries only. If you're not a dispensary, you don't have to apply for the cultivation permit. Neither of the groups you mention are covered by this provision.

[senorx12562]

Long before this proposal came out, it was obvious that no grower in their right mind would come forward in any manner. No background check through NCIC, no 1099s from dispensaries (and don't think that Federal law enforcement isn't keeping track of that through the IRS), no way, Jose! I am staying so far underground that I'll have to speak Mandarin. I even changed my avatar to suit. Just call me THE MOLE!

[copobo]

Just call me THE MOLE!

I hear ya. the thing I keep telling myself is, at this point, I'm in it for fun. As long as you don't go on TV and blabber about how much money you are going to make, keep the size within state limits... they are not going to be interested in home grows. there's just too many of us, and the publicity is bad.

I really think over time, this is all going to become more normal. There were no dispensaries a year ago (correct me if I'm wrong) and the progress is phenomenal. Knee jerk publicity whores in the legislature set out to be big and bad, and all of the legislation has weakened tremendously.

Dispensaries are here to stay, and supply and demand will require an underground market for growers to clinics & patient to patient if 1284 passes.

[TheReleafCenter]

The DEA doesn't seem interested in taking down large scale grows that have their patient information down. I believe, for the most part, if you are truly operating in clear compliance with Amendment 20, you are going to be just fine. If you're trying to grow 50 plants with the recommendation you paid your Doc an extra $200 for, that's a different story.

The main reason they want wholesaling is so they can follow the supply chain from grow to dispensary. It helps them identify black market/cartel activity if they can say "All of a sudden 30 shops have Blue Dream but no one is growing it in Colorado." Very big brotheresque; they want transparency on our side. It also makes it a lot easier for people who simply want to grow and not deal with patient acquisition or running a storefront.

The last time I read the house bill, I believe the language was that anyone can grow, but you need to be contracted by a dispensary. If you're under contract, you can serve that dispensary and one other with the remaining 25%. Turning this on it's head, any grower could simply stockpile to reach a level where they produce and sell what the market demands. If you had 100 lbs of the worst outdoor bud you could grow, that enables you to sell up to 25 lbs of anything else. Doesn't make sense.