indoor VS outdoor

[LOC NAR on probation]

Absent prohibitionist policy, why limit distribution to "co-ops" and "dispenseries"?

Why not just grow and sell as one sees fit?

That's the way it should be. Yes.

But There needs to be some kind of control for meds or people get ripped off by greed. They have managed to keep the price down somewhat.

When it all comes down to it. All I want is to grow and persue happiness.

[InvisibleGarden]

Hi
I am a professional organic Horticulturist. I have and can, grow anything. I started in the 6th grade growing my favorite herb ( tobacco..opps just kidding). While in the 6th grade, during summer time, I was sent to Cuba to be with my great and grand parents who ran a tobacco shop. Did you know that in cuba everyone smoked pot mixed with tobacco? I would steal cigars from my grands and separate the good stuff from the tobacco!
Any ways, to make a long story short...I started growing cuban pot which has been grown for centuries by the old folks for tea etc,... a very strong indicia black variety ( i would love to get a hold of it now!) Any one in Cuba?

anyways to answer your question re indoor or outdoor. I can grow both and you will not be able to tell the difference! I prefer indoors for many reasons...
1. you can have a continuous year round harvest!
2. you can control the environment from co2 to soil to nutrition, to pest control to human control.
3. I use LED lights (hardly any increase in my electrical usage!)
4. I can graft on one plant with many many different varieties!
5. Over the years you can develop your own local variety. Once you master growing from seed.
6. Cloning is impossible outdoors
hope this helps
:rastasmoke:

[EciRonTog]

My experience for the most part is that outdoor can be just as strong/potent as indoor but its almost always more harsh. Just the dust and random particles in the air that collect on it from being outside will give the bud a darker color and make it smoke harsher than equivalent indoor.

Not really a big deal either way but like if I'm taking fat bong rips or smoking an entire joint to my dome my throat can feel damn scratchy afterward if it was outdoor.

[higuy75]

A lot prefer inside due to lack of pests ex. white flies, birds, and generally the smoke is less harsh than outside.:smokin:

[rudy2010]

Hi
I started growing cuban pot which has been grown for centuries by the old folks for tea etc,... a very strong indicia black variety ( i would love to get a hold of it now!) Any one in Cuba?

I would like to see that too!

anyways to answer your question re indoor or outdoor. I can grow both and you will not be able to tell the difference! I prefer indoors for many reasons...
1. you can have a continuous year round harvest!

Yep 2 oz 6 crops per year indoor = 12 oz. One outdoor plant one crop per year 1 to 7 lbs of dried buds.

2. you can control the environment from co2 to soil to nutrition, to pest control to human control.

Yes to a degree but you are more likely to get spider mites and leaf mold.

3. I use LED lights (hardly any increase in my electrical usage!)

Huge initial investment and not really up to the technology when budding.

4. I can graft on one plant with many many different varieties!

This sounds cool. I have never tried this. Please start a separate thread with the details.

5. Over the years you can develop your own local variety. Once you master growing from seed.

I have 26 varieties that I am turning into mother clones. I am still trying to grow out various varieties to compare side by side.

6. Cloning is impossible outdoors

That is only partially true. You can take clones from your outdoor plants until they are far into the budding stage. It is true that you will have to put the new clones in a box to root them and get them started.

hope this helps
:rastasmoke:

As far as getting dust and random weeds - I have also heard of gravel and mice but that seems to be mostly a problem with the weed from the cartels. I have a problem with pine needles and hairs from thistle plants. I know what the thistle looks like now so I will eliminate that. It is not that hard to get the few pine needles off. I am able to keep them from having any effect on the taste. That is mostly related to the strain planted and care taken when manicuring and drying the buds. Cheese will almost always taste better than sour diesel but will usually not be quite as strong.

Regarding micro grows. Absoutley they have quality variations there. You can go to 10 different dispensaries and get 10 different qualities of supposedly the same weed.

A lot of folks on this forum say super silver haze is a top smoke. Yet I have tried it at a couple of dispensaries and found it to be very disappointing. I will need to grow one out for myself to see what the actual quality is. Last year I grew a white widow which has never impressed me. When folks I know went to Amsterdam white widow was always the lowest price and quality in all the coffee shops. I am amazed at how well it turned out. The white widow and the bliss were by far the best two varieties I had last year. I have to clean the resin off my scissors every time I roll a joint and have to clean my sifter after every two joints. The grower makes a huge difference in the quality.

[SoCalDad]

:S5: I am running a 120watt LED 80%blue 20%red plus a 400watt MS bulb. All at the same time. My strains are Headband...Master Kush...Grape kush...White widow...God's Gift...Grandaddy purp...Cronic...Sour Grapes...Blue dream...Ak-47...Casey Jones...Trainwreck...Soil BX mix...I am 2 weeks in and looking really good and FULL Thick Leafs...Any help is greatly needed. This is my second time growing. I still have alot to learn.

[SoCalDad]

Indoor will always test higher if grown with C02. Outdoors there is only so much c02 in the ambient air. And the climate can not be controlled. If you were to take the same strain 1 outdoor and 1 indoor with added c02 you should have 5 to 7% more THC in the indoor plant. Temperature is also key in max production of THC. Controlling humidity: temp and c02 will always produce a more potent plant!!!!!!!!!

:thumbsup:Nice job Man! What are ur lights?

[demoreal]

:S5: I am running a 120watt LED 80%blue 20%red plus a 400watt MS bulb. All at the same time.

thats alot of blue light, is there a reason?

[SoCalDad]

thats alot of blue light, is there a reason?

:smokin: The blue is for growth the red is for flower.

[demoreal]

I know that.
what i was wondering is you use so much blue compared to red. is that your set up all the way threw flowering. MH? cause I would think you would want to use an LED with an HPS, or at least an LED with more red?