[quote=Islandborn]America has been a democracy for how much longer than Iraq?? Our elections look almost exactly the same.....minus the sand and drugged kids blowing themselves up cause daddy is a uneducated islamoconservative..../QUOTE]

Yes, fraud is rampant in their election now, just like it is in ours or was in 2000 and 2004. We just have Christian Conservatives who want to tell everybody what to do. Not far off from a type of Taliban.

If you want to know more about tribal people, read an anthropology book. Tribal ties are just as strong and tight as family ties. You don't take what I say but you will find the same things in a book. :stoned

What convinces you that we are the greatest thing since sliced bread???? We don't even have politicians of any party that actually support and do things in promoting the GENERAL WELFARE, but they do assure the corporate welfare even when they ship jobs from the US to overseas. imp: