Krusty Bucket LED Grow

[khyberkitsune]

Okay, update! Did some cleaning of dead leaf material, backed off on nutrients on the bigger DWC/Krusty buckets (The micro SWC is a-okay for the most part.)

Pics are of the micro SWC.

[Greenmain]

Most panels are made in China, pure and simple they've got a stranglehold on the rare-earth market and thus it's almost impossible to find diodes not made in China.

The leds in the lights your using are from Bridgelux. Bridgelux is an Osram company.
LED, light source manufacturer of LEDs and arrays for Solid State Lighting applications
They are producing the led here in the states and than selling them to china. At least that is my understanding. Therefor making your claim that china is the home of led production, incorrect. In addition Nichia and Osram both make the vast proportion of there product here in the states. I have a friend that is a rep for one and a business acquaintance that is a rep for the other so I have a pretty good idea of what I am talking here.

The next generation will likely be quad-band, assuming the cost of 420nm diodes drops (they're currently about 2-3x more expensive than any other diode.)

You have showed my a link to China made lights "www.ecogroled.com/".
That isn't a link to the 420nm led you were referring 2. In addition Those Prices suck!(90watt led for 299$). You can get the 90watt ufo lights from amazon for 150$ and I got pricing right from china for 90$ each. So what give's? Have you found a 420nm high power led? Or was there just some talk with your "supplier" about using them?

ANYONE LOOKING TO BUY THESE LED LIGHTS GO HERE.
LG-LED Solutions Technology Limited - Led grow light, commercial light, led bulb
For get ebay...Don't bother those folks in china if you just want one. But if your looking for 4 or 16 led light contact them and they will give you factory direct pricing.

[Greenmain]

If you "design horticultural light for companies around the globe" why is it that all the lights in your grows are off the shelf products? Surely you would have the technical expertise to design and build a superior light? Any plans?


As you may have noticed I don't lurk much....I just log in and stir the pot

[Greenmain]

.......In addition Nichia and Osram both make the vast proportion of there product here in the states. I have a friend that is a rep for one and a business acquaintance that is a rep for the other so I have a pretty good idea of what I am talking here.

That statement is nearly completely incorrect....on a whim I called my buddy after posting......He told me that nearly every Nichia led made comes from Japan. Osram's production very all over the globe....Holland Denmark German(lots in Germany i was told) and here in the states but neither have any really serious presence in china. Basically due to the lack of intellectual property rights. Just wanted to get the right info out.

Still however to say that China has the market cornered is plainly false and incorrect.

Cheers :jointsmile:

[khyberkitsune]

If you "design horticultural light for companies around the globe" why is it that all the lights in your grows are off the shelf products? Surely you would have the technical expertise to design and build a superior light? Any plans?


As you may have noticed I don't lurk much....I just log in and stir the pot

For panels I use off-shelf housing, everything else is customized. My pricing sucks, eh? Well, take any other same-wattage panel and let's see which one produces the better yield! You pay for RESEARCH, not marketing.

I DO NOT USE BRIDGELUX DIODES. LOL BRIDGELUX!!!! I've seen KingBrights better than that! And I will still assert that China is the largest LED manufacturer on the globe. Maybe Singapore or Malaysia rivals China. Go attend a JEDEC semiconductor conference and you'll find these things out. Pure and simple, they have the majority of the raw materials required to make current-gen high-output diodes, and they have massive semiconductor fab operations.

And I do have a design of my own. That's not for the commercial market, that's for NASA only as it is designed SPECIFICALLY to meet their requirements for size and weight and thermal regulation. I'll stick with pre-existing solutions and modify them to perform far better for my regular market. For larger horticultural operations, such as the NFT channel sheds that I work on, I made a custom solution for lighting that as well. Simpler than what's available on the market, and cheaper to implement, and still maintains IP-65 waterproof rating.

As for the link to 420nm, you need to clarify a bit more. And I knew you were dead wrong about Nichia. You think I haven't talked with their technicians already while considering which diodes I'd want in my panels? Osram's diode wafers come directly from China, BTW. That's pre-package assembly.

I never said China has the market cornered. I said China is the biggest manufacturer. There's a total difference between the two statements.

I don't see much of a calling-out, here. I just see some trolling that makes me laugh. I wonder how long you'd last on candlepower?

[khyberkitsune]

So we're about a week away from harvest with these two plants. I've clipped off all the dead/dying stuff, and took a couple of plain-flash pictures for you to see for yourselves. Overall, for a badly-burned couple of plants, they still produced some decent-looking herb, despite the overall small size of the buds. As I was cleaning the dead stuff away, the ever-familiar smell of the Hindu Skunk was quite strong on the scissors.

Next time - more airflow. I've built a smaller box for a couple of plants for exactly that purpose and you might see a journal on that, should I decide to fill that box with cannabis.

[khyberkitsune]

I had harvested what had came form the PC box - MOLDED.

Guess I'll be waiting for the other two buckets to finish, even though they had the same burn problems. My other plants in flower, including my new 5-site and the two mothers, are not exhibiting the problem since I vastly improved the airflow in the closet by removing the big box I built (that's outside sheltering the partial-sun plants, now,) and re-organizing my plants, which allowed me to put in a fan.

Consider this grow log finished and be on the lookout for the new grow log, which will actually be posted in the grow log section - I will update this one final time once I harvest the Krusty and DWC buckets. The yield will suck on those but the new plants should do FAR better with the new setup.

[turtle420]

I love this thread.

[khyberkitsune]

I love this thread.

I was happy until I started burning the plants.

Ah well, the next grow will be much better, I can already tell.

[khyberkitsune]

June 20th. Two more weeks to go, then I'm hashing out those plants.

Journal has been created, it's linked in the bottom of my sig.