Very Small buds !?

[stra8outtaWeed]

i would have to say that you are providing enough light to make them grow but not enough for budding....plants don't see lumens...they only need a few colors form the light spectrum to grow! Are your CFL's in the warm color range i.e. 2500k?

[mrmuffler]

i would have to say that you are providing enough light to make them grow but not enough for budding....plants don't see lumens...they only need a few colors form the light spectrum to grow! Are your CFL's in the warm color range i.e. 2500k?

Im running 4400k- 5000k ...

I read all over that lumen are very important for plants to bud !?

[canni13is]

those "big white hairs" are the buds. Your grow is just really slow cause your not providing it with the correct spectrums and enough lumens. they will eventually get bigger and bigger. But at this rate...... might be done at 16 weeks 17 weeks. Id advise getting more and the correct lighting to your plants.

[mrmuffler]

Well what color temp would you recommend?:thumbsup: I want w/e light temp to give me the best growing power, Should i add bloom nutrients?

[canni13is]

for flowering its recommended warm, so 2700k. And of course you can add blooming nutes. Just make sure you know what and how before you start just adding stuff.

[krisk1227]

Home depot sell a cfl that is 2600k 150 watt with high lumens. it is a big cfl get several with splitters might help. Plus no one ask what size pots they are in . If roots are root bound there will be minimal bud growth as well. they look ok other wise

[stra8outtaWeed]

Im running 4400k- 5000k ...

I read all over that lumen are very important for plants to bud !?

Lumens and Lux are measurements of how bright a light source appears to the human eye. Since the human eye is most sensitive to colors plants don't need, and least sensitive to colors plants prefer, Lumens can't be used to accurately compare the plant growing capability grow lights.
If a grow light manufacturer rates his grow light output in Lumens they are only telling you how bright it will appear to you and light your room, not how well it will grow your plants. The most accurate unit of measurement for comparing plant lighting is the micro Einstein, which measures how many photons of light strike an area per second.

But, while this is a much better way to estimate a lamp's plant growing ability than Lumens or Lux, it is still very difficult to directly compare two different types of grow lights. All grow lights except the LEDs grow lights emit large amounts of light plants don't use very efficiently, so including that light output in a light's plant growing measurement is misleading.

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[cigarettes42]

honestly your problem isnt the temp of your light. plants can grow in any kind of spectrum. its just that each color produces differently. old schoolers use to grow with 4ft cool white florescent bulbs. i noticed you didnt fill any ts form. that would help. but noticed your purple stems. that could be caused by a cold grow room. if the room is to cold it will hinder its growth.

[mrmuffler]

Thanks everyone for all the GREAT help so far, really glad i joined the site !

Wow first off you all def know what your talking about you hit everything on the head that i thought the problems was:thumbsup:

Ok so im going to start by going to the store and buying some 2700 spectrum lights , I have already replaced 2 lights and im going to add a few more.

As per Bloom nutrients is there something @ homedepot or walmart ect i could buy and what would be recommended ?

honestly your problem isnt the temp of your light. plants can grow in any kind of spectrum. its just that each color produces differently. old schoolers use to grow with 4ft cool white florescent bulbs. i noticed you didnt fill any ts form. that would help. but noticed your purple stems. that could be caused by a cold grow room. if the room is to cold it will hinder its growth.

You really know your stuff! I ended up with about 4 cold nights over the past couple of weeks and i didnt adjust my heat accordingly. Now it has been fixed with new heating system.:thumbsup:
But do you think thats the reason why it has not grown in the last month ?


Im going to throw this out there! So the other night i was thinking why not add a reptile heating pad under the plant on a dimmer and set it to about 60-70 would that work at all ?

Thanks again all !

[mrmuffler]

Lumens and Lux are measurements of how bright a light source appears to the human eye. Since the human eye is most sensitive to colors plants don't need, and least sensitive to colors plants prefer, Lumens can't be used to accurately compare the plant growing capability grow lights.
If a grow light manufacturer rates his grow light output in Lumens they are only telling you how bright it will appear to you and light your room, not how well it will grow your plants. The most accurate unit of measurement for comparing plant lighting is the micro Einstein, which measures how many photons of light strike an area per second.

But, while this is a much better way to estimate a lamp's plant growing ability than Lumens or Lux, it is still very difficult to directly compare two different types of grow lights. All grow lights except the LEDs grow lights emit large amounts of light plants don't use very efficiently, so including that light output in a light's plant growing measurement is misleading.

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Very cool ! Thanks for all the info!