Fox Farm Soil Question

[stra8outtaWeed]

not trying to stir shit here...but i use the FFOF straight for my clones and i primarily grow OG SFV and it is touchy about ph and nutes and since switching to FF my clones are awesome and i find it very uniformly made compared to other soils i have used! :hippy:

[lampost]

Whatever. I've been doing this shit a while, but regardless...you are the one having all these problems, not me. I am pointing out that FF is a quality product, but you keep wanting to blame the soil, which even a newbie can sucessfully use with a little patience and a little knowledge. Perhaps you got a bad bag. But if you did, why are you beating a dead horse with these continuing complaints? Get a new bag of different soil. <doh> You want excuses...blame me, as I'm not going to keep going through this bullshit with you.

I asked to see your exact test strips, you offer lame credentials that haven't yet helped you figure this out. But as defensive as you get, and as much resistance you show twords any possibility that it's not the soil...it isn't helping your situation now, is it?

Bummer I couldn't help. Good luck. :thumbsup:

Thanks. I'm actually not having problems anymore because I figured it out pretty much right away. I never blamed the soil. I was just asking questions. If I remember right, you're the one who suggested that they possibly left the buffers out of that bag.... check that other thread.

I was debating the exact same thing before I started this grow: FFOF straight VS. FFOF/LW. I can see now why some people like to use FFOF/LW. I will probably do FFOF/Happy Frog. I didn't flush my FFOF when I transplanted to 5 gals.... so it was extra "hot" the first few waterings.

Here's the test strips...

Amazon.com: JUNGLE 6-N-1 TEST STRIPS 100CT: Kitchen & Dining

I offer lame credentials and get defensive because you posted 3-4 times implying that I was somehow screwing up the process of taking readings. Just a little frustrating since I'm probably more precise than most soil growers out there with my readings.

Peace

[WashougalWonder]

Settle down folks. Please.

Usually any potting mix is made by using the big front end loader to put in scoops (yards at a time) into a conveyor system that takes it to a mixing hopper. There some person from outside the country without a green card (just kiddin' round) dumps in a 100 pound sack of vermiculite a 50 pound sack of sand, 20 pounds of ammonium nitrate, and so on.

Depending on whether he got laid or just got drunk last nite will have a direct effect on the mix. No mixing long enough after dumping all that stuff in and sending out to the bagger will give you a bad batch.

So, Go check if they have green cards or not. Not sure if that will make a difference, but I hope to hell it lightened things up here.

[Rusty Trichome]

madseason: I hope this thread had answered your questions. Sorry it devolved like this. Seems to happen more frequently these days, as summer season approaches. Must be in the air.

lampost: Looking back, sometimes I type too fast. I have a profound respect for higher education and I didn't mean to say your credentials are lame, but did mean they are lame in regards to growing cannabis. I hope you see the difference and accept my appology.

Now, about your experience with 'precise' testing and calibration. The main reason for asking about your testing, is that the aquarium test kits and test strips and dependant on color-coded results. The tinting of the runoff skews the results. Sometimes, not even in the ballpark. With your credentials, I'd have thought you would understand this.
You didn't by chance set (calibrate) your ph pen to the runoff results, did you? (just curious)

I was being facetious about the missing buffers, and was offering you a way out of this conversation gracefully. :jointsmile: Doubtful bag was bad from the factory, as most companies have a QC to prevent any product inconsistency, and keeping the customer from killing all their plants. (bad for business) A more reasonable possibility is that if the soil is bad, it was was a victim of inadequate or long term storage, overmoistened, stored in direct sun...whether at the retailers or in your backyard.

[pappabear]

FFOF rocks, but your right no nutes for at least 3 weeks. I also add 50% perlite and couldn't be happier with the results. And your seedlings look fine for only a couple of days out, They're gonna grow fast have fun.

[lampost]

RT: Seriously? Questioning my ability to measure pH again? FYI the runoff was from a flush and was clear...

I think that question I asked about water temperature recently - the retarded one - is sticking in your mind

And you will soon see just how lame my credentials are when it comes to cannabis.

ORIGINAL POSTER: You'll be fine either way. Growth rates will just be slightly different... it'll likely be better for the FFOF, but nobody posts about FFOF/LW being too hot. Good luck!

[dirtnap411]

I've been told that OF was too hot for my seedlings, and was recommended Happy Frog, so far I like it, ph runs about 6.5, except the stuff I added coco to, that ran at 7 till I flushed it a bit, but all in all it's good soil, and nice and mild.

[Rusty Trichome]

RT: Seriously? Questioning my ability to measure pH again? FYI the runoff was from a flush and was clear...

I wonder what the true levels are then. Flushes remove what you're looking for. Oh well...you're the boss.

I think that question I asked about water temperature recently - the retarded one - is sticking in your mind

No. I generally stick to the subject whenever possible. If I had questions about your temps I'd have said so.

And you will soon see just how lame my credentials are when it comes to cannabis.

I'll anxiously await you successes, but unless your credentials include plant biology, horticulture or the like...your credentials mean nothing other than the fact you can read.

Unsubscribed.

[HymroD]

Settle down folks. Please.

Usually any potting mix is made by using the big front end loader to put in scoops (yards at a time) into a conveyor system that takes it to a mixing hopper. There some person from outside the country without a green card (just kiddin' round) dumps in a 100 pound sack of vermiculite a 50 pound sack of sand, 20 pounds of ammonium nitrate, and so on.

Depending on whether he got laid or just got drunk last nite will have a direct effect on the mix. No mixing long enough after dumping all that stuff in and sending out to the bagger will give you a bad batch.

So, Go check if they have green cards or not. Not sure if that will make a difference, but I hope to hell it lightened things up here.

Not sure what the person doing the manual labor's immigration status has to do with the soil...but at least your post was descriptive.

Pe@ce,

HymroD