just so everyone knows no it wasn't a sales pitch, and you're all right, this is a substitution method. and as such just about any of the other delivery methods will most likely be just as effective. the main point of my original post was not necesarily about the device itself, but more for the very inexpensive source of clean urine. so many people out there worry about whether this source or that source will pass the test. others get their urine from someone that is clean(you hope). personally i have seen people buy other peoples urine (a risk i am not willing to take for the simple reason that that person may have taken a prescription pain killer or some such and just forgot to tell you about it.), i've even seen somebody use a homemade concoction of water, salt, mountain dew(of all things) and a little bit of coffee thrown in for good measure. he didn't pass his test. as for the quantity of drug screens i have taken over the years: yes somewhat of a job jumper, but not the way you might think. i'm an industrial construction worker, which means i go where the job is. usually when the job is complete there is a lay-off, which means find another job or draw unemployment. also because it is industrial work the clients usually require mandatory minimum randoms. needless to say my previous statement was completely true though i will admit that i only had to take as many as 30 one year, most years average around 12. the one true benefit of the urinator over other delivery devices is the fact that the temp is never more than 1/10 of a degree more or less than 98.6 degrees. and two 9 volt batteries will maintain the proper temp for 6 hours (one extra set of batteries and your ready for the whole day).

so to be clear: i am not trying to sell anything, just figured that with all the opinions out there, some legitimate and effective, others downright fantasy and luck, i would share with the rest of you my highly effective method

as far as cost goes, yeah you can go down to the head shop or wherever and get what you need, but if anyone has found a guaranteed clean source of urine for less than ten dollars please let me know.