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02-25-2010, 01:13 AM #1OPJunior Member
best substitution methed there is (IMHO)
i have had anywhere from 12 to 30 employment drug tests a year for over 13 years both pre employ and random even a few post injury tests. i have always used the same thing and never had ANY kind of negative result. i have passed tests where there was someone standing just behind me watching. i don't know how well it would work if they actually needed to see you urinate, but hell this is substitution anyway right. here is my method: on the internet at urinator.com (make sure you spell it with an "o" not an "e" (some weird porn site)) they sell two things. the first is a device called the urinator. this is basically a small medical type pouch (imagine a small iv pouch) with a built in thermostatic control that operates a credit card thin heating pad that is powered by two 9 volt batteries. and the whole thing folds up in a pouch about the size and shape of a velcro wallet. i said thermostatically controlled. that means when the liquid comes out of it it 98.6 degrees +/- .1 degree.
the other thing they sell at this web site is something called dr. johns pee. this is a concentrated synthetic urine substitute that when mixed with water is chemically identical to human urine. (at least that is what the website claims)
when i have to take a pre employment screen, i don't know what kind of form the test might take so i prepare for the worst. i wrap an ace bandage around my stomachand tuck the urinator under it just above my beltline. the urinator has about a six inch tube coming from it which i tuck into my pants. this is only really necesary if i am going to be watched. if i know i wont be watched i just tuck the thing in my boot and off to work i go.
now heres the kicker. they sell the urinator for 150 dolars(worth its weight in gold to me)and they sell the urine for ten dollars if you have purchased a urinator(ever). if you haven't bought one then they charge 20 dollars (still a very reasonable price). the urine in concentrate form has a shelf life of a year(unmixed), and the only thing that damages it is uv light. temperature is not an issue. once mixed it needs to be used within 12 hours or frozen. my solution: unless i think i am going to be watched i do not mix it. keep the tiny vial of concentrate in my pocket and the device in my boot. i'll pee anytime you want me too.
now wait i know what some of you are thinking, maybe it wasn't a dot test,
how close could it really be to real urine, or some other such nonsense. let me reassure you. i have taken nondot tests, dot tests, 7panel tests, 10 panel tests, even had to take a test after a crushing injury and they tested for other things like blood in my urine. i have NEVER FAILED EVEN ONE TEST!!!
i usually use a urinator for about three years before i sell it (in perfect working condition) to some other poor desperate schmoe, for the same 150 i paid for it, turn right around purchase another one and a fresh supply of urine, pay the 15 dollars to have it overnighted and i'm back in business the next day.skydivr Reviewed by skydivr on . best substitution methed there is (IMHO) i have had anywhere from 12 to 30 employment drug tests a year for over 13 years both pre employ and random even a few post injury tests. i have always used the same thing and never had ANY kind of negative result. i have passed tests where there was someone standing just behind me watching. i don't know how well it would work if they actually needed to see you urinate, but hell this is substitution anyway right. here is my method: on the internet at urinator.com (make sure you spell it with Rating: 5
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