SWC Micro Grow

[cigarettes42]

1.Im using a 100w light with plenty of tin foil, that way the plant will get plenty of light.

lmao!! you cant grow jack with that bulb. light bulbs have no useful energy output for growing anything. that micro case is just a reading room/heater for your plant. i bet if you put an egg in there you will get a chicken, then after it will cook it for you with all the tin foil. look into buying a cfl and replace the household lightbulb.

[khyberkitsune]

lmao!! you cant grow jack with that bulb. light bulbs have no useful energy output for growing anything. that micro case is just a reading room/heater for your plant. i bet if you put an egg in there you will get a chicken, then after it will cook it for you with all the tin foil. look into buying a cfl and replace the household lightbulb.

Well, not entirely. The incandescent would work, but given the output spectrum (with a typical peak hitting around 630nm,) the typical tungsten-filament lamp would be more usable during flowering than during vegetative phases, and the relatively low radiometric output levels of the proper wavelengths would cause stretching or fluffier buds.

Really I'd look into targeted-spectrum CCFL lighting for the case. It's low-heat, high-output, and they do make it in basic dual-band (but since a CCFL is a fluorescent tube, there's plenty of trace peaks across the entire visible range) so I'd be willing to bet it could be done much better than a CFL. Might be a little costly but I'm not entirely sure about that either. I've been dying to build one using the new CCFL tech.

[cigarettes42]

Well, not entirely. The incandescent would work, but given the output spectrum (with a typical peak hitting around 630nm,) the typical tungsten-filament lamp would be more usable during flowering than during vegetative phases, and the relatively low radiometric output levels of the proper wavelengths would cause stretching or fluffier buds.

Really I'd look into targeted-spectrum CCFL lighting for the case. It's low-heat, high-output, and they do make it in basic dual-band (but since a CCFL is a fluorescent tube, there's plenty of trace peaks across the entire visible range) so I'd be willing to bet it could be done much better than a CFL. Might be a little costly but I'm not entirely sure about that either. I've been dying to build one using the new CCFL tech.

exactly. useless energy

[AnonTom]

Thanks guys, and yes I do live in a 20 mile radios of a gardening shop, but I seriously doubt they have hydroponic materials... Out here Hydroponics=weed, so businesses stray away from that growing method. I think ill just wait until next pay check and invest in aero garden or something, that would be best for a noob like myself xD

[khyberkitsune]

Thanks guys, and yes I do live in a 20 mile radios of a gardening shop, but I seriously doubt they have hydroponic materials... Out here Hydroponics=weed, so businesses stray away from that growing method. I think ill just wait until next pay check and invest in aero garden or something, that would be best for a noob like myself xD

I'm no AeroGarden fan, having seen many grows just go totally wrong shortly after the system fails.

It'd be easier to DIY. Rig some stuff if you have to, but it shouldn't be that hard to get some mini-plumbing to build your own sprayer system for aero.

[infinitylimit]

I was reading your grow journal and was impressed up to the point where things went a bit off. You mentioned you were getting near 90 degree temperatures, it might actually work with a 50w if you added C02 with a simple DIY yeast version.

At 90 degrees you can increase the amount of CO2 the plant will want to use and you get that special zone of increased growth and safety because the plants will be expiring at 8x the normal evaporation rate thus staying cool.

In larger grow rooms this requires a decent amount of equipment to pull off but in these small PC case grows it makes sense that something like a small yeast bottle and release should increase the CO2 in the confined space quickly and effectively making it worth it. I mention yeast because it cheap but a CO2 bottle or anything else would also work.

[khyberkitsune]

I was reading your grow journal and was impressed up to the point where things went a bit off. You mentioned you were getting near 90 degree temperatures, it might actually work with a 50w if you added C02 with a simple DIY yeast version.

At 90 degrees you can increase the amount of CO2 the plant will want to use and you get that special zone of increased growth and safety because the plants will be expiring at 8x the normal evaporation rate thus staying cool.

In larger grow rooms this requires a decent amount of equipment to pull off but in these small PC case grows it makes sense that something like a small yeast bottle and release should increase the CO2 in the confined space quickly and effectively making it worth it. I mention yeast because it cheap but a CO2 bottle or anything else would also work.

It wasn't the temps causing the issue. Everything was fine until I ran out of circulation capacity due to the canopy. At that point, the light hitting the leaves was just causing excess heat build-up in the tissues themselves because there was inadequate airflow to move cooler air in to keep the plants cool. Totally crispy plant.

If you follow my new journal in I think my bottom link in my sig, you'll see much better results.

Soon I will build a new case grow, with better ventilation. But right now, I just got my new NFT system (minus hydro fittings) and I need to get that set up. Only took FOUR MONTHS to get here!

[smokealot123]

lmao!! you cant grow jack with that bulb. light bulbs have no useful energy output for growing anything. that micro case is just a reading room/heater for your plant. i bet if you put an egg in there you will get a chicken, then after it will cook it for you with all the tin foil. look into buying a cfl and replace the household lightbulb.

yes you can i saw it before myself.. went to pick up some bud one day and the dude had a plant about 2 feet tall and it looked healthy and from what i could tell it was just about to bud.. it was under a normal light bulb 100 watt and it was grown from seed i was told under that bulb only never said it was a good idea, just correcting you because you said that this light will not grow anything, and it clearly does.. no grow cabnet or tent or anything was used either.. was simply on a bar stool and the light clamped on the table

[Indagrojeff]

Just a quick note of interest. Incandescent lights actually have decent spectral characteristic, especially for flowering. The only real issue with them is efficiency, which is pretty bad. Obviously for real grows with real power consumption, this would not be acceptable.

Peace to all.

[SmokeMyPiece]

yes you can i saw it before myself.. went to pick up some bud one day and the dude had a plant about 2 feet tall and it looked healthy and from what i could tell it was just about to bud.. it was under a normal light bulb 100 watt and it was grown from seed i was told under that bulb only never said it was a good idea, just correcting you because you said that this light will not grow anything, and it clearly does.. no grow cabnet or tent or anything was used either.. was simply on a bar stool and the light clamped on the table

- Ive seen this before.. one grown with the incandescent 100w bulb inside the kitchen fixture, with the plant on the kitchen table.. had to do a double take when i saw it..
- He assured me 'itl bud, itl bud'.. didnt have the heart to tell him, since it was on its 3rd month now w/o a single pistil.
- Sure itl veg (barely), but will not produce ANY BUD :thumbsup:

Just a quick note of interest. Incandescent lights actually have decent spectral characteristic, especially for flowering. The only real issue with them is efficiency, which is pretty bad. Obviously for real grows with real power consumption, this would not be acceptable.

Peace to all.

- This has already been addressed....

exactly. useless energy