I'm right there with ya IslandBorn, people that think that we, humans, had anything more than a slight impact on what is happening are retarded. I too have a buddy who is into this shit, and all I want to do is shut him up everytime he talks. But he's a GoreBot(he won't admit it but he is) and no matter what I tell him, show him, talk to him about, he still thinks we can stop this global warming. Yes, there has been a significant rise in temperature throughout the past couple decades. So what, its slow its not like shit isn't having time to acclimate or what-have-you to the new surroundings, it's not like next year it's going to be 2 degrees warmer in North Carolina and all the gators are going to die. Shits happening slow, the Earth knows what it is doing, it's just trying to get rid of us so it can have some damn piece and quiet.

-C