3rd time.. would love input!

[marcaka]

hey i def wanna hear a lot of advice and constructive criticism on how to make my ladies better so def any input is appreciated
4X4X7 tent... carbon filter hooked to outtake fan.... port in the bottom of the tent for the negative intake...regular fan inside not blowing directly on plants 400W HPS using happy frog soil, and then transplanting into fox farm ocean forest soil... also using the foxfarm trio BB,GB,TB. temps with light on right around 74-78F. with the light off it is about 59-62F. I def need some help, this is my third time but first trying nutes and the tent... I have a ph meter on the way so i will update that info when i can... but the problem is that some of the plants, about 4 nodes down, the fan leaves are starting to get brown and crispy for some reason {if you know let me know :thumbsup: and then some of the leaves are just brown and dont have the rigid leaf pattern... Right now I only have one that I have started with the Foxfarm week 1 feeding schedule/chart... I have my mix at 50% strength {I intend to keep all of their recommended strength be reduced to 50% throughout, just because im not sure if you are supposed to feed them full strength at any point or not, so input here would def be awesome}
Most of the other plants are about to be in week 1 Veg. soon, but again if someone disagrees let me know I AM GOING TO ADD PICS SO CHECK THEM OUT AND DEF COMMENT help me out :jointsmile: I am a little bit confused though because i dont know why they arent growing like they should most are getting close to a month old if not older (from first planting in soil from germinated seed) shouldnt they be a little bigger?
I just feel that there is not much feeding going on, should I just start feeding and no watering and then flush once a month?

marcaka Reviewed by marcaka on 02-22-2010. 3rd time.. would love input! hey i def wanna hear a lot of advice and constructive criticism on how to make my ladies better so def any input is appreciated 4X4X7 tent... carbon filter hooked to outtake fan.... port in the bottom of the tent for the negative intake...regular fan inside not blowing directly on plants 400W HPS using happy frog soil, and then transplanting into fox farm ocean forest soil... also using the foxfarm trio BB,GB,TB. temps with light on right around 74-78F. with the light off it is about Rating: 5

[marcaka]

the first 4 pics def show the problems I am having.... I believe I might have been over watering but have corrected that.. I think.. Would love to hear someones watering and feeding system that has used foxfarm before...or just anyone who has a good one :thumbsup:

[marcaka]

first 2 are of the tallest lady... she had trouble at first and the leaves looked the same as on some of the other plants... the 4th pic is of the younger plants... about 3 weeks old.... and the fifth is of a younger one with the same problem with the leaves.. I cant figure it out anyone ever have this problem and corrected it please let me know how!

[raizla]

The good thing about troubleshooting plants is that there is a finite list of things that could be causing your problems.

Lights - I don't see any burnt tips, and your plant canopy isnt thick enough to block light yet.

Temperature - 16 degree swings is a bit much. I assume you're on an 18/6 schedule since you mentioned temps with the light off. There isn't any difference in growth between an 18/6 schedule and a 24/0 schedule (it's been argued to death!), so I would keep your light on 24/0 to keep the temps in the 74-78 range. The plants will be much happier there. If you're flowering already, well it seems a bit early to me, and I'd wait until the plants are healthier.

Watering - it's possible you're overwatering still. You didn't list your watering schedule, so it's hard to critique it. My watering started out at every other day when the seeds first popped. Now it's every 3rd day. Once I move into a pot your size, it might even be a bit longer as more soil holds more moisture. Make sure the top inch of the soil is DRY before you water. If you need to, weigh the plants before watering, and about 30 minutes after watering. They should add a lot of weight!

Nutrients - Fox Farm Ocean Forest is good soil. I've seen people go with zero nutes for the first month in FFOF, and their plants looked wonderful. I'm not totally clear whether you're in OF or HF right now.

pH - could definitely be a problem. I hope you got some pH up and pH down as well as storage solution to go with your meter. Cant diagnose this one until you get your meter.

You've got a few good sized plants there. If I were you I would make a test plan and see which plants respond the best.

Plant 1. Wait another day and a half to water each time.

Plant 2. Keep the current watering schedule, but raise the nutrients.

Plant 3. Keep the current watering schedule, add 25% nutes.

Plant 4. Keep your current schedule of watering and nutes.

If I had to make a guess at this point, I would say that you're watering too much, too few nutes, or the pH of your water is locking out the nutes. One of those three.

[raizla]

After looking at your pictures again, I'm sticking with the over-watering idea. All of your leaves point down, rather than up, which makes me think they're heavy, full of water.

[marcaka]

well im only around week one in the feeding cycle... can i just go ahead and start light for 24/0? should i give them 36 hrs darkness before flowering?? by the way the have def taken well to the nutes and not as much watering... I fed on sunday.. after taking pics... and they have def grown... it still looks as if the bottom leaves are not taking too well and come in yellow and dont look great... I will post pics shortly... def let me know about the 24/0

[marcaka]

oh yea i am using fox farm garden forest soil..fed on sunday... still moist today so i dont think I am goign to water... i plan on feeding them again on thursday...any suggestions on watering in between?? should I? shouldnt I? and i am getting my water ph down around 6.8 and my feed ph at 6.3

[marcaka]

ok so I took some pics.. they are looking a little better.... right now they are all getting week 1 nutes... kind of confused.... do i need to always alternate feed, water, feed etc. or could i do feed, water, feed, feed water etc.

pics 1 and 2 are just of 4 of them
pic 3 is of the little yellow leaves on one at the bottom
pic 4 shows the biggest one and another the biggest was really overwatered at the beginning
pic 5 is of the biggest plants new growth in between so i am not as worried bc it looks a little better

[marcaka]

pics 1 and 2 show where another plant had some nute/water problems... and still does some... thinking about scrapping it.....
pics 3 and 4 are of fat boy haha.. for some reason it is short and just huge fan leaves... and a very thick stem, but again, short.
pic 5 is of the setup

[marcaka]

pics are of 3 new ladies :stoned: