First EVER grow... Lowrider, lights?

[JelloBlob]

Hey guys,

so the plant has started to flower, there are (pistols) coming out in a few different spots. Here's my prob.

Since I got the seed, I've been giving it tap water. Just tap, nothing else. Now that its flowering, should I turn the light off or change the schedule? (currently 24/0). Also I have it in a box, with the light above the plant, about 6-8" away, with no air circulation.

Any recommendation on where I should go from here? PLANT Is flowering now and I haven't given it anything but tap water. Its also still in the same pot I've been growing it since seedling. Thanks so much guys, I'm hoping the first one is something smokable but I'm not going to keep my hopes too high in case I do something wrong.

[bigtopsfinn]

Maybe I missed it, but what kind of lights are you using? If they are low wattage (20-40w) CFL's, they should be 1-3 inches from the plant, or as close as you can get them without burning the leaves. A fan blowing on the plant will help this also.

What size container is that (how much soil)? And what kind of soil (brand, is it pre-fertilized)?

As for giving nutrients, this depends on your soil. If you are using Miracle Grow, you won't need nutrients for about a month. As long as they are green and look healthy, they don't need nutrients. From the pics it looks like you'll need a larger container pretty soon, and when you do re-pot (with MG for example), you can go another 3-4 weeks without nutrients.

Not really sure which pot size is best at this point, but check out some other grow logs and see what other people have successfully used.

Once those nutrients run out, however, your best option is to get nutrients made specifically for growing cannabis in soil (Fox Farm, Canna). You can get away with other types, but the results are usually not as good. If you go with MG nutrients, find out the NPK numbers on cannabis specific flowering nutrients, and try to match them (more N for veg; Less N and more P and K for flowering- which is what you want since you are flowering).

I don't think changing the light schedule matters at this point. It's an autoflower, it will produce flowers under any light schedule, but I don't know which schedule is the best. I'm sure there is some information out there about the best schedule, but until you find it, just leave things as they are.

[JelloBlob]

Maybe I missed it, but what kind of lights are you using? If they are low wattage (20-40w) CFL's, they should be 1-3 inches from the plant, or as close as you can get them without burning the leaves. A fan blowing on the plant will help this also.

What size container is that (how much soil)? And what kind of soil (brand, is it pre-fertilized)?

As for giving nutrients, this depends on your soil. If you are using Miracle Grow, you won't need nutrients for about a month. As long as they are green and look healthy, they don't need nutrients. From the pics it looks like you'll need a larger container pretty soon, and when you do re-pot (with MG for example), you can go another 3-4 weeks without nutrients.

Not really sure which pot size is best at this point, but check out some other grow logs and see what other people have successfully used.

Once those nutrients run out, however, your best option is to get nutrients made specifically for growing cannabis in soil (Fox Farm, Canna). You can get away with other types, but the results are usually not as good. If you go with MG nutrients, find out the NPK numbers on cannabis specific flowering nutrients, and try to match them (more N for veg; Less N and more P and K for flowering- which is what you want since you are flowering).

I don't think changing the light schedule matters at this point. It's an autoflower, it will produce flowers under any light schedule, but I don't know which schedule is the best. I'm sure there is some information out there about the best schedule, but until you find it, just leave things as they are.

Hey Bigtopfinns!

Thanks for posting again! I have 2 60w CFL's on a Y connector. I have the lights about 4" from the top of the plant. I have the plant in a 24 x 12 x 12 box. As you can see in the pictures, I don't have ventiliation, just whatever leaks through the openings. I really should invest in a fan but I don't have one yet...

I purchased some miracle grow for flowers today. I mixed some at the bottom of the same pot and added the plant to it. The soil was very moist when I took the plant out. The soil wasn't really sticking to the plant too well, it was breaking off on the sides. Is this a bad thing?

Also, the lowryder is only about 8-10" tall. I'm not sure if it should be taller? Its actually starting to flower now since there are pistils in many of the spots! I counted at least 10 different openings where pistils are coming out. Thats getting me pretty excited! I asked Lowes about "Foxfarms" but they had no idea what I was talking about. I purchased some Miracle Grow Bloom Booster but haven't added it yet. All the leaves are green and there is now browning on the plant. Hope it stays that way.

Some of the edges of the leaves point up while some of the other edges point down. Is that tell me something? Thanks again for all your input!

[bigtopsfinn]

Looks perfect from here :thumbsup:

I'm guessing you meant to say it's green and no browning, which is what it looks like.

The height will stay pretty short compared to regular cannabis plants, which can be good if you have space limitations, but bad in terms of yield.

Just keep up what you're doing, seems to be working. Results can be improved with more lighting (which require more ventilation to keeps temps in range), but for such a small plant you can probably get something worthwhile with what you have now. :jointsmile:

[ShastaCoMan]

i wish i had someone local thats into autoflower stains. i got ahold of two bluberry kush babys a couple of weeks ago , and im assuming they are autoflowering, as ive got them under 24 hour 400w MH , and when i went in t check them this evening, fund they have flower pistles on them! ..UNLESS they were taken from a 12/12 female before she started flowering, and then its entirely possible that they had just enough hormone in them that when they got completely over transplant shock they started to flower....WHO KNOWS!

not into autoflower strains myself, i prefer to have total control over what my girls are doing......ALTHOUGH bluberrys pretty damn tasty!

anyone know anything about U2 kush?..lineage is supposed to be hindu kushXlowryder, BUT if it is a lowryder cross, shouldnt it ALSO autoflower?

[redtails]

It may be just showing maturity with the pistils. A cross with an auto can go either way, the auto genetics are basically inbred until most if not all will flower automatically so when crossed with a normal strain it dilutes the auto genes...

[JelloBlob]

Looks perfect from here :thumbsup:

I'm guessing you meant to say it's green and no browning, which is what it looks like.

The height will stay pretty short compared to regular cannabis plants, which can be good if you have space limitations, but bad in terms of yield.

Just keep up what you're doing, seems to be working. Results can be improved with more lighting (which require more ventilation to keeps temps in range), but for such a small plant you can probably get something worthwhile with what you have now. :jointsmile:

Thank you! sorry, meant to say, no browning, which I am very happy about! I took some good pictures of the pistils today, I will upload them later. They're sprouting in quite a few places. I was wondering if I can cut sme of the leaves to give more light to that area? Don't know if that would help yield more since some of the bigger leaves at the top are taking a lot of the light.

I started giving the plant Miracle grow bloom booster for flowers. Is this ok? I'm not too certain what to do in regards to watering. I water the plant every 2 days but have never drained any water. I have also turned the light off for 4 hours a day at random times. Would this be ok? Sometimes it may be 5 hrs. I'm not sure if changing the schedule this late can cause problems? I hope my next one can be double size if I do things right

:thumbsup:

[JelloBlob]

It may be just showing maturity with the pistils. A cross with an auto can go either way, the auto genetics are basically inbred until most if not all will flower automatically so when crossed with a normal strain it dilutes the auto genes...

Hi Redtails,

What does that mean to just show maturity? Does it mean it has a possibility of not budding? How do I know if this is crossed with a normal strand? Are there certain things to look for on the plant?

Compared to what I'm smoking now, (Sour D, Cheese, Cheese Supreme - extremely good by the way!) how strong can this possibly be? Hoping its something decent...

Also, when do I know when the plant is done (ready to smoke)? I have seen pictures of people putting the plant on dryer hangers. Am I going to have to hang it somewhere? Thanks for all the feedback!

[redtails]

It's like puberty really, the plant usually shows the preflowers at a certain age just like men get facial hair & women get breasts. It's just signalling to the outside world that it's come of age and is ready to breed.

That part about crossing to a normal strain was more directed at Shasta, as long as you got the seeds from the breeder or an authorized reseller then it should be legit as an auto.

As for strength, I've never tried Lowrider but it seems very similar to the auto I grew out. Mine was pretty potent, small yield but strong smoke. I've heard a lot about how ruderalis is crap, and how the ruderalis in the autoflowers makes them crap. True it's not as strong as some of the other "normal" varieties, but it can still be pretty good IMHO. Autoflowers are primarily geared towards people with not much space or growing talent from what I've seen, not necessarily for heavy smokers or conniseurs.

[JelloBlob]

It's like puberty really, the plant usually shows the preflowers at a certain age just like men get facial hair & women get breasts. It's just signalling to the outside world that it's come of age and is ready to breed.

That part about crossing to a normal strain was more directed at Shasta, as long as you got the seeds from the breeder or an authorized reseller then it should be legit as an auto.

As for strength, I've never tried Lowrider but it seems very similar to the auto I grew out. Mine was pretty potent, small yield but strong smoke. I've heard a lot about how ruderalis is crap, and how the ruderalis in the autoflowers makes them crap. True it's not as strong as some of the other "normal" varieties, but it can still be pretty good IMHO. Autoflowers are primarily geared towards people with not much space or growing talent from what I've seen, not necessarily for heavy smokers or conniseurs.

Thank you!

I took some high res pictures today. I wanted to ask if I can trim any of the leaves or if the plant would die if I did this? I would like to trim away leaves that are covering the lower part of the plant so I can give it more light. Is this possible? Also, I'm giving the plant Miracle Grow Bloom Booster now, wondering if anybody else has done this?

Also, just by looking at the plants, anybody have an idea when they will be completed? I have no idea what to do when they're ready as is!

Thanks!