sorry ocotilla i wasnt awear that you asked a question........i did read loads of logs on grow and did do a good job of it first time round (18/6).....then i started to listen to a mate going on about 12/12.......this is my first 12/12 grow and i wish id never started it.....ive sorted the timer out now and put it on 18/6...the only reason i didnt do this when i seen that the 12/12 was shit was becouse i didnt want to stress the plants out.....i asked for advice and loads of people give different ones so i had a lot to read.....sorry if i come across as dumb