Early Female ID

[WashougalWonder]

I am sure I will hear about this. I have do documentation to prove this other than my observances over the last 1.5 decades.

I believe in it enough I took a plant that had not shown and put it in the flower room. Did that exactly 7 days ago. Today it showed.

I have a theory. I did identify this as a female on day one of germination. My only proof is a friend, and my word. You don't wanna believe, then so be it, don't be nasty. I am posting in advanced so I don't mess with newbies heads. Chripes they worry too much for this old fart.

So, my theory is:

If a seedling comes out of the soil and there is dark red streaking or dark red stem watch this closely for signs of being a female.

Additional signs are red streaks in the main stem. Red 'dots' on the petioles. NO red in the leave veins (which is a deficiency). The petioles may even have red streaking.

I germinated 3 of the same species, one showed today, another I killed today because of poor phenotropism, and the last one is still in veg and not showing. I believe that one is a female too, but it is growing quite differently from it's sibling.

Conversely, Male seedlings are green stalk. No red in the petioles, they also are green. They grow faster, taller, leaner and using those criteria, I have not been wrong yet.

Maybe this is just a fluke. But someone or something I read somewhere a long time ago in a land far, far away....(back to life now) I heard this. I did not believe it. I think I do now.

There are additional little indicators, like the parts I call the spurs. They seem to look more like crossed swords early in life whereas in males they just look like pointy things sticking up.

I know I came outta no where. I do try hard to document and have references for what I state. This time it is just experience.

Are there people that agree with me? I am sure we have dissidents. Like I say I cannot prove this, but golly gee, if I am risking $300 seeds and just throwing them in a flower room, I sorta believe in what I am doing, I am not a risk taker.

Have a good un.

WashougalWonder Reviewed by WashougalWonder on 02-13-2010. Early Female ID I am sure I will hear about this. I have do documentation to prove this other than my observances over the last 1.5 decades. I believe in it enough I took a plant that had not shown and put it in the flower room. Did that exactly 7 days ago. Today it showed. I have a theory. I did identify this as a female on day one of germination. My only proof is a friend, and my word. You don't wanna believe, then so be it, don't be nasty. I am posting in advanced so I don't mess with newbies Rating: 5

[WashougalWonder]

Note the red (dark streaks) in the stalk and the dots (darkened area in the bases) in the petioles, the spurs are arched, and if you look really close you can see the first pistil.

[WashougalWonder]

This is such a fricking awesome hobby.:thumbsup:

[wyldeganja30]

I am gonna test this. becousei have also noticed the streaks in females. also i believe males grow taller a lot faster than females. this has been true in all my grows. ill support this one.:rasta:

[WashougalWonder]

Took a couple more pictures to see if I can show the difference between normal 'female red' and K defiency. The first 2 photos are the top and bottom of the petiole as it meets the leaf. Note how it does not extend into the leaf circulatory system. See the red dots, and how on the second picture, they are mostly on the 'sunny' side of the petiole and not on the bottom

Finally the 3rd picture is a plant recovering from K defiency (and that is the only way I could be sure that was what it was, since it improved after that supplement.) Note how the red extends into the leaf veins. That signals some sort of deficiency. Unfortunately, several deficiencies will do this, so to claim it is always a K deficiency is bull.

What I am trying to show is how the female presents with her reds. Look in your own garden.

[azdesertdweller]

ahahahaha...YES !!...i think i scored.....red all over on sprouting(stems,stalk)ahhh...gotta love surfin the good stuff:thumbsup:

[gypski]

I am sure I will hear about this. I have do documentation to prove this other than my observances over the last 1.5 decades.

I believe in it enough I took a plant that had not shown and put it in the flower room. Did that exactly 7 days ago. Today it showed.

I have a theory. I did identify this as a female on day one of germination. My only proof is a friend, and my word. You don't wanna believe, then so be it, don't be nasty. I am posting in advanced so I don't mess with newbies heads. Chripes they worry too much for this old fart.

So, my theory is:

If a seedling comes out of the soil and there is dark red streaking or dark red stem watch this closely for signs of being a female.

Additional signs are red streaks in the main stem. Red 'dots' on the petioles. NO red in the leave veins (which is a deficiency). The petioles may even have red streaking.

I germinated 3 of the same species, one showed today, another I killed today because of poor phenotropism, and the last one is still in veg and not showing. I believe that one is a female too, but it is growing quite differently from it's sibling.

Conversely, Male seedlings are green stalk. No red in the petioles, they also are green. They grow faster, taller, leaner and using those criteria, I have not been wrong yet.

Maybe this is just a fluke. But someone or something I read somewhere a long time ago in a land far, far away....(back to life now) I heard this. I did not believe it. I think I do now.

There are additional little indicators, like the parts I call the spurs. They seem to look more like crossed swords early in life whereas in males they just look like pointy things sticking up.

I know I came outta no where. I do try hard to document and have references for what I state. This time it is just experience.

Are there people that agree with me? I am sure we have dissidents. Like I say I cannot prove this, but golly gee, if I am risking $300 seeds and just throwing them in a flower room, I sorta believe in what I am doing, I am not a risk taker.

Have a good un.

I'm on board with ya. Now about the crater in the seed being female. Any results? :thumbsup:

[emilya]

If a seedling comes out of the soil and there is dark red streaking or dark red stem watch this closely for signs of being a female.

Additional signs are red streaks in the main stem. Red 'dots' on the petioles. NO red in the leave veins (which is a deficiency). The petioles may even have red streaking.

Conversely, Male seedlings are green stalk. No red in the petioles, they also are green. They grow faster, taller, leaner and using those criteria, I have not been wrong yet.

I am pretty sure that I have results from my experiment using this theory.
Out of 4 plants, I am pleased to report 3 successful identifications at day 6 with a good argument that we actually identified the 4th one also and were 100% accurate !

Please reference this post: http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/...ml#post2167903, post #8

As predicted, #1 is a male, #2 is female, #3 is male and #4 seems to have possibly hermied on us due to stress... if it was actually going to be female this Early ID was 100% accurate just based on color at day 6!

Even at 75% accuracy, this is exciting... I can't wait to try this again!

Emmie

[WashougalWonder]

Thank you Emmie for all your work in documenting this. I would hope that others would also do a grow and track this as your start was very rocky and stressful on the plants. I am so glad it worked.

[canniwhatsis]

I've stopped cloning for a while as I work on my grafting project and plan on cracking some beans.


I'm hoping for a male Vanilluna so i can breed more seeds, and some girls of some of the other strains.

Over next week I plan on doing the "Crater" check on the beans and doing some germinating,.... Mind if I track em here or should I start my own thread? :S5: