ba guano tea ?? ?? ? ?

[canni13is]

YES!!!!!!... I always love a good pissing match. Its like watching a monkey fuck a football.....never gets old. Or does it?

[Rusty Trichome]

Im not trying to use the tea as a disease prevention or as my main nutes, just as a supplement.

That was the original intent of marketing teas, was for their pathogen/disease treatment.
Although there are other simple 2 and 3 part nutes on the market that work fine if used properly, Fox Farms is what I use so It's what I talk about. It also has a comprehensive and easy to follow schedule without filling your head with the need for 32 different molasses formula's.

Why is it you have to suppliment to begin with? What is missing in your nutrient regimin that you have to suppliment?

You think that I waste money? I used FREE FISH TANK WATER for my initial veg and I prefer that over hum tea.

Your fish tank water was doing so well you decided to switch to tea? Bad example, but good choice I guess.

My plants arent stretched, the lanky black domina was a project of my friends and I at his house, I had no control over it stretching.

Was yanking your chain. Most would have pointed out the difference in strains as the reasoning.

I'm seeing you may have missed the point of the implications of the article. They can't market teas as a pesticide, (I believe was it's first claim) as there is no evidence it works as such...but as a possible suppliment or foliar...Now that's marketable.

From the article:
If compost tea doesnâ??t do anything,
then how can it hurt to apply it?
â??While the scientific evidence is
certainly lacking for aerated compost
tea activity in disease control, there is a
serious, documented concern with these
types of compost teas,â?� says Dr. William
R. Schneider, a research scientist in the
Biopesticides & Pollution Prevention
Division (Office of Pesticide Programs) of
the Environmenatal Protection Agency.
He continues,
He continues, â??It is very difficult
to do a microbial pesticide risk
assessment on a mixture of unidentified
microorganisms that could easily
contain human and nontarget organism
pathogens.â?�
Indeed, this risk is significant in
aerated teas that have been â??enhancedâ?�
with molasses, kelp, and other highnutrient
additives. Such aerated teas havebeen documented through scientific
research to contain E. coli and Salmonella
populations, both of which are human
pathogens. The recent deaths due to
E. coli-contaminated spinach illustrates
how dangerous compost tea applications
can be, particularly on food crops."

Homemade tea anyone...? C'mon...anyone...? I would prefer to keep from adding pathogens, especially potentially fatal ones, in or around my smokables, the soil they grow in, or the nutrients they may even thrive on. Why should I take that chance?

If you're into reading more along these lines, give this one a go...
Foliar Feeding Myths

[mrbigair600]

Thats what I read on the compost tea article is the intent for marketing. Im using it based on results Ive gotten from my local hydro store owner who I trust well. The main Cutting Edge 3 part system works fine tho if not better than the tea. It really was an experiment to put the Hum Tea up to the test of a urban legend I was hearing at my local dispensary and what Ive heard from other people. The 3 part system I use from them is very simple their chart from seedlings to flower hasnt let me down yet, if you wander away from their recomended dosage it doesnt work properly. Fish tank water was working but I could tell that it didnt have enough trace elements such as magnesium, maganese, zinc etc my plants were looking diffecient from magnesium they wernt taking nutes in properly. Like you said Ive also heard great things from foliar feeding but personally I dont like using that method I find it uneccesary when your nutes are dialed in properly. I cant afford buying a gallon of tea a week so it was just a experiment I did. I have five strains going in rows of four, each week I tried using just tea in one row, regular nutes in another, molasses and PH water in another and the last row my nutes with a tad bit extra mag + calcium. Results very but in the end Im not seeing much of a difference, they all work to some extent but really its just preference. If I could afford a fish tank at my new place then I would use it again. What strain is that you have going Rusty? Very curious they are a nice lush green lookin good with no deficiences which foxfarm can always provide. Cutting edge is cheap just like foxfarm I payed $60 for two gallons and got the third part for free. So 3 gallons of nutes for $60 is a steal IMO. Are you using their three part additives or just Big Bloom/Tiger Bloom? What is your feeding cycle like? If all goes well in the next two weeks Im going to begin flowering, my node spacing on the main stalks is less than one inch! They are looking healthy right now all are over 15" but I want to let them veg a little longer to fill out better

[Rusty Trichome]

It's a strain I call PokerFace, but it's a pre-release version of Reeferman's Cherry Bomb he gifted to a few of us. He never told us the eventual name, but the characteristics are close enough, and his release of the strain immediatelly after...I'm sure it's his Cherry Bomb. (but now...Poker Cherry?)

Glad to hear your success with the tea's. I prefer a little more control, and less cost/complication/chance for error. Plus, since I found out about the pathogen thing and strong potential to over or under use, my mind was set. Not worth the further attempts. Believe it or not, I do still like to try new things if benefits seem warranted or biologically feasable. Not just because homey at the growstore told me it's benefits. Regardless, I stopped using the tea's before I came across the article.

I found it a bitch to troubleshoot when so much had gone into the mix. The more I tried to normalize my grow by eliminating one at a time, the more I realized the additives, ammendments and teas were, at the very least, responsible for the problems. Been near a year now since I even tried.

I've stuck with the FF trio, with a molasses kicker starting half way through flower. I use the Big bloom at half-strength, with a 1 tsp:gallon molasses once a week. No SuperThrive, no CalMag or CalMag Plus, no teas, no foliar feeding. Once a month flushes, on the first of every month for everything in late-growth and flower stages. Releases salts and built-up crap. I've seen the beginning stages of salt build-up, but that was years ago when first starting to use the trio.

I know compost teas can be a benefit, and they have their place. But they are not a panacea, can easily be defecient in micro's, and some brews can be anything but uniform. Knwo what you are adding and why. Contrary to popular marketing, there's no such thing as making a superplant from a bottle of snake oil. In my growroom, superplants come from experience.

[mrbigair600]

For sure man see I agree with you on that. Ive never seen pokerface before interesting looking strain. I know that the main problem using a tea is also the PH of the tea. When its not being churned inside the brewer the PH tends to be a little high then after a couple hours it drops to 6.5 from 7.3

So I know that it isnt for the novice grower and Im pretty much done trying it anyways like I said the dollars add up quick already. Yea the big bloom is pretty good tho we used that last season outdoor and results were good all the way from start of flowering and to the end. Tea brewing the right way can be expensive and like you said inconsistent if you dont know what your doing.