red/purple stems droopy leaves help!!

[slipped]

help!!!1
2 30-40 gal rubbermad tubs hydroton and rockwool dwc with 6 air stones tottal
normal temp 74-76
humity around 35-44 percent
using pure blend pro 3-2-4
using around 1/3rd recomended for seedlings
week 3?? day 1
added water earlier today above bottum of basket... i know dumb... also watered 1 plant that was dry.....
Week 3??? day 2 4.30 am
leaves are droopy and purple stems.. temp 75 degrees added water earlier today above bottum of basket... i know dumb... also the plant i watered is the worste... not sure everything else because i actually didnt start the journal this day is just the beggining of my problems.. day 3 is the day i started my journal
week 3 day 5. 12.01 pm
leaves on most plants ok except the one i watered... ph a little high added mad farmer get down ph down.. using chimicles it was yellow which is..6.0
week 3 day 5 4am
leaves on most plants droopy again!!! and stems purple!!!
sorry no digi.. ill try and invest in 1 asap
Hydro Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?seeds and 2 clones.. clones dont seem to be effected as bad also another clue.. there roots arent in the water yet the rest are...
2. How old are your plants? 3weeks from seeds.. the clones not sure.. around the same size..
3. How tall are your plants?4-9 inches averaging prob 7 inches.. bu ti did do some lst and bending super crop style
4. What type of hydro system are you using?dwc
5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using?pure blend pro
6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution?6.0
7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water?n/a
8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution?pretty sure it was between 0-100 the dipstick said ..
9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution?64-68
10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check?n/a.. dont check stays inbetween 0-100 on dipstick
11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check?rises daily
12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?i did last night with epson salt plants looked a little better in the mourning but they did the last time and i didnt spray them...
13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights"),mh and 7 cfls 3 cools 26watts 4 warms 23watts
14. How close are your lights to the plants? 22 inches and the florcents like 2-5 inches
15. What size is your grow space in square feet?around 25 sq feet a open closet mainly
16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space? 74-76 light on.. 67-71 light on
17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?none
18. How much experience do you have growing?3rd grow.. 1 cfl grow that got me a little bit of bud.. not allot.. and 1 1000 watt grow that burned up the plants and i had to leave state.. so that didn't go well but i read allot
help them some o yeah and the leaves are healthy looking green kinda dark on some others seem almost light with dark green on the stem of the leave and the little lines..... but curled and stems really purple ...

slipped Reviewed by slipped on 02-11-2010. red/purple stems droopy leaves help!! help!!!1 2 30-40 gal rubbermad tubs hydroton and rockwool dwc with 6 air stones tottal normal temp 74-76 humity around 35-44 percent using pure blend pro 3-2-4 using around 1/3rd recomended for seedlings week 3?? day 1 added water earlier today above bottum of basket... i know dumb... also watered 1 plant that was dry..... Week 3??? day 2 4.30 am leaves are droopy and purple stems.. temp 75 degrees added water earlier today above bottum of basket... i know dumb... also the plant i Rating: 5

[WashougalWonder]

First of all, the red looks like a young female to me.

Second of all (and I do soil) if that was my plant I would transplant. There is a deficiency or multiple deficiencies. I don't do the hydro, so the numbers mean nothing to me except I don't like the 6.0 PH, I would prefer 6.5, but......

Possibly Iron, K, MG, or MN missing. Probably needs N. Again, I am basing my statements on soil farming. Did you post in the hydro section?

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i added more fert than normal to a fresh batch and damn near imediatly drooped worst.. this is 8 hours after

[Faddenator]

First of all, the red looks like a young female to me.

Second of all (and I do soil) if that was my plant I would transplant. There is a deficiency or multiple deficiencies. I don't do the hydro, so the numbers mean nothing to me except I don't like the 6.0 PH, I would prefer 6.5, but......

Possibly Iron, K, MG, or MN missing. Probably needs N. Again, I am basing my statements on soil farming. Did you post in the hydro section?

6.5 is actually terrible for hydro... It's supposed to be lower, in the 5.5 range.

i added more fert than normal to a fresh batch and damn near imediatly drooped worst.. this is 8 hours after

I think your nutrient solution needs to be warmer, maybe 70-75 (cold temps = purple stems), and you need to adjust the ph to around 5.5. 6.0 is likely slowing nute absorption, possibly even locking out some nutes. (phosphorus lockout = purple stems) Thats all I can think of.

does anyone else want to chime in on this??? I don't grow hydro so I'm just sharing what I've (hopefully) learned...

Hope this helps at least a little bit, slip. good luck :thumbsup:

[slipped]

Well half of what you said is true the temperature doesn't need to be that high that would bring on root rot and possible growths 68 degrees is already to high, but the ph you are right is suppose to be at 5.5 thanks for the info. Ive lowered the ph level and its staying down so far. If it wonders i lower it so I'm keeping it down also i have a ph meter on order not going to have to use drops anymore which is awesome. So they still look better right now and i added another pump and some airstones from the 99 center store. Actually I think the litter ball shaped stones work better than the bars from walmart. What do you guys think??? Should i completely switch over to the 99 cent air stones? So far I've used more nutes.. that was a no no.. used less a table spoon of Epsom salt another pump got rid of the bad cat liter in my room and the pump.

[Ocotillo]

Dude! Not to be a Monday morning quarterback but until I saw it was hydro I was going to guess Phosphorus deficiency possibly due to high PH lock out. I really was since I've had this twice already but the second time I caught it MUCH earlier. Since I'm sill a newb I didn't want to get too big for my britches or give too much half backed advise.

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Ive got i think 5 in this tub now. 2 of the 99 cent store 1's and 3 the middle sized i think 6 inches or maybe bigger i don't know. I have more of the smaller 99 cent store ones. I cant figure out which to use. I have 4 walmart dual pumps tho as well for 2 tubs and I'm using 5 of the airstones on the tub with the larger plants so get more because there roots are larger. O yeah the roots are still growing fast. The plants seem to be on a timer every night around 3am is when they droop it seems. I don't get it water level is low... ph is low i ordered a ppm tester and i used 2 diff kinds of strips for now and neither of them changed colors so i don't think its over fert. If it was wouldn't they stay droopy?? instead of perky all day until 3am droop i close the closet then in the mourning there perky again. I change something else Ive done pretty much everything everyone has told me on here. Drowning sounds reasonable i guess, but wouldn't they be drowning all day?? i dont get it the temp it fluctuate a little tonight before they drooped i had to turn on the ac a couple times to keep it down maybe cold air blowing on them made them droop?? its annoying as all hell figuring it out, but at least Ive perfected allot of things since now if i could just get past this!!!! i wish there was like a place in town i could call and have them come look at them lol. I have pictures and everyone says something different. I want to sex them, but I'm scared to traumatize them any could it be to much light from added the cfls maybe and they are were out towards they're dark time so they droop? I've been researching constantly and found several different answers tryed everything and i have gotten the same results its irritating. I appreciate everyone trying to help tho.