[quote=headshake]if you are starting from seed you want to wait until the plant is sexually mature, or it has alternating branches from nodes.{QUOTE]

Wow, I've been reading up on this only only found "x number of weeks" type of answers. Plants don't work that way, this sounds like a great way for THE PLANT to say when it's ready and not the calendar. Well done sir. I shall heed your words. Thanks. :thumbsup: