yeah thats what there called sorry but i just forgot what there called...yeah i will get one of those and see how i do...i have pictures but for some reason i cant upload them on this computer so i will try to on a different one and i will let you know... but my plant is only about 2 and a half weeks old and its around 5 inches tall and has about 6 going on 7 nodes and i think just went into veg technically. without pictures of course do you think im doing ok because im really excited but im second guessing. anyone can chime in i dont care any input is fine by me... and if anyone can ball park how much yeild with this set up just let me know. :thumbsup: