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    #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamessr
    So I think I called it on point in this case. Hiatt again messed up a simple MMj case. 1) State v. Fry specifically states the presentment is for an Aff. Def., not for an officer to decide but, a jury. This is so simple to present by motion...then to the jury...did this happen? NOPE.

    I didn't read anything about them being denied an Aff. Def., so one would presume from what the cdc has posted, HIATT fucked up again...if they was denied the defense then the court fucked up...my bet is hiatt screwed the pooch on this one. AGAIN.
    No they used the affirmative defense for the arguement, why else would a MMJ patient be in court?
    There is no automatic win in court no matter what the case is. The single most important factor in any court case is the jury and I knew the defendent wasn't going to win this case but I really thought we would atleast have a hung jury. The single deciding factor, and we didn't know this till the jury re-entered the courtroom with there verdict, was the jury foreman. While most everyone thought this guy was going to be pro-defense because he had a ponytail and beard, I knew he was trouble. I had sat on a jury prior with him and he's a big law and order and absolutely follows the rules. When he was announced as jury foreman I knew the defendents were screwed. None of these MMJ cases can be won unless atleast one juror understands the concept of jury nuullification and has the compassion to use that when its needed. I would say the biggest problem in the case was there should have been more evidence as to John and Karens medical neccesity for more than the guideline amount of 15 plants. And while there was lots of testimony about that issue, it should have been really hammered home.

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    #32
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    New Court Date

    well I am a medical marijuana patient and mine went before a jury also, yet I was denied my Aff. Def., I still had a jury trial, because I demanded one.....so I must say your incorrect on the jury issue and the Aff. Def. issue too reach a jury....I had NONE...straight I was guilty because I had marijuana in my possession, even though I had a valid authorization per statute 69.51A....it was a business owner in mine that won the case...which is not in our statute, now is it???

    The real legal issue here is the attorney doing their job to get all the evidence before the jury, which shows more likely than not, a patient is valid, State v. Janes...if one piece is missing...da patient auto-matically loses....it is clearly obvious from what I have read from these posts, cdc info. and knowledge of washington state tactics in court....the lawyers failed their client...as usual from Douglas Hiatt...from my experience....

    Name a case he has won??? or been part of that has won? I find NONE!!

    cdc can only go upon what DH said too them....I read only excuses myself...sorry but, it is what it is...a joke.

    The guy your describing was also the foreman in my trial....hmmm? Can you get dudes name please?? If he is da same dudue, well we just busted the state and courts for corrupting trials for us MMJ patients....wow, what a show that would be huh?

    I just went through my trial lawyers files and all the names for my jury are missing..huh? WTF?? Now I am on high alert....please help find the names killerweed420...of their trial....

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    #33
    Senior Member

    New Court Date

    Quote Originally Posted by jamessr
    well I am a medical marijuana patient and mine went before a jury also, yet I was denied my Aff. Def., I still had a jury trial, because I demanded one.....so I must say your incorrect on the jury issue and the Aff. Def. issue too reach a jury....I had NONE...straight I was guilty because I had marijuana in my possession, even though I had a valid authorization per statute 69.51A....it was a business owner in mine that won the case...which is not in our statute, now is it???

    The real legal issue here is the attorney doing their job to get all the evidence before the jury, which shows more likely than not, a patient is valid, State v. Janes...if one piece is missing...da patient auto-matically loses....it is clearly obvious from what I have read from these posts, cdc info. and knowledge of washington state tactics in court....the lawyers failed their client...as usual from Douglas Hiatt...from my experience....

    Name a case he has won??? or been part of that has won? I find NONE!!

    cdc can only go upon what DH said too them....I read only excuses myself...sorry but, it is what it is...a joke.

    The guy your describing was also the foreman in my trial....hmmm? Can you get dudes name please?? If he is da same dudue, well we just busted the state and courts for corrupting trials for us MMJ patients....wow, what a show that would be huh?

    I just went through my trial lawyers files and all the names for my jury are missing..huh? WTF?? Now I am on high alert....please help find the names killerweed420...of their trial....
    Not aware of all the cases Doug has been involved in, don't know how many he's won. Have known lots of defense attorneys and the vast majority are lucky to win a few over there careers. Its an unfair system. The prosecution likes to say the burden is on them to prove guilt buts they have all the money and resources and they are the only ones in the courtroom that can have a judge removed if they think they're being unfair.
    I didn't say that the jury foreman was the jury foreman in the case I was involved in, he was just on the same jury. And a juror never knows the names of other jurors unless they will voluntarily tell you there names, they are only known by juror number. Which is the way its supposed to be. The judge goes to great lengths to try and protect jurors from harrassment.

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