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[ZionsLion]

I have tremendous compassion for anyone who is persecuted by law enforcement. Even so, 74 plants is a little hard to justify, even with 2 people. I'm not even talking about the 15 plant guideline that came AFTER they were arrested.

I was visited by Westnet in 2008. I wasn't even charged, because I had 9 plants and a valid authorization. They said I could have even had 27 (9 cuts, 9 veg, and 9 flowering) and still been fine, but 37 plants per person is just reckless, arrogant, and puts a black mark on our whole community.

I wish them the best, God knows that there is enough suffering in this world WITHOUT wishing more of it on sick people. Still, there is nothing in the world powerful enough to get me to show up in support of these people.

Don't want to get arrested? Follow the law and stay out of dramatic places where the police can identify you!

[killerweed420]

I think Doug is still a good attorney but as a defendent you really need to be involved in the case to make sure you're aware of eveything going on in the case. If you're not motivated the attorney won't be.

[killerweed420]

Was in court today. Trial seems to be going pretty well, Doug's doing a good job, got a little heated there for a little bit.lol
Be back there tomorrow morning at (. John and Karen's doctor is supposed to testify tomorrow,

[jamessr]

I have tremendous compassion for anyone who is persecuted by law enforcement. Even so, 74 plants is a little hard to justify, even with 2 people. I'm not even talking about the 15 plant guideline that came AFTER they were arrested.

I was visited by Westnet in 2008. I wasn't even charged, because I had 9 plants and a valid authorization. They said I could have even had 27 (9 cuts, 9 veg, and 9 flowering) and still been fine, but 37 plants per person is just reckless, arrogant, and puts a black mark on our whole community.

I wish them the best, God knows that there is enough suffering in this world WITHOUT wishing more of it on sick people. Still, there is nothing in the world powerful enough to get me to show up in support of these people.

Don't want to get arrested? Follow the law and stay out of dramatic places where the police can identify you!

I think your a very smart person but, I think you have forgotten Mr. Olsen had 4o something plants in kitsap county and won his case. so for 1 person to have already proven this so called high amount of plants is the underpinning of this case as far as amounts being normal for a 60-day supply of this particular patient....it seems you must be forgetting we are all different in our relief levels.....it may have been swag vs. chronic strains they had which means the alleviating contents of the plant would be lower and require more intake for uptake...

Saying it fumes the black market issues is so far off base....I don't believe they are even related being no-one has claimed any hand to hand sales... and making such a claim without documented sales is again so far off base but, a liability cover-up excuse of officers doing wrong.

[jamessr]

Are you saying Hiatt is not an effective lawyer? I would really like your opinion. I was thinking of hiring him.

If you wish to give your money away, my hand is out and just as much as hiatts will be. yes he is ineffective as I have ever seen and had an opportunity too watch fuck shit up that is so simple to win....

Hire Aaron Pelley in seattle. You could never go wrong with him, he is a proven winner on every MMJ case he has done....got hiatts winning records??? can you find any?? or are you impressed with a loud mouth???

Your call but, don't say I didn't warn you...I have know this guy since 2004 and followed him like glue....I even filed a bar complaint against him and steinborn...along with the guy he defrauded....I got the records......

Good luck.

[jamessr]

Was in court today. Trial seems to be going pretty well, Doug's doing a good job, got a little heated there for a little bit.lol
Be back there tomorrow morning at (. John and Karen's doctor is supposed to testify tomorrow,

Who is the doctor?

[killerweed420]

Dr. Carter is his main doctor but he has gone through about 4 others because they were illegally putting amount of medicine or an expiration date on the authorizations. The date issue isn't particularly bad because it means nothing, the plant or ounce amount is illegal for 2 reasons. Because the state does not allow it in there laws and the main reason is because a doctors prescription rights are not granted by the state but by rhe DEA. So because its federal he can not right an amount on the recommendation because it constitutes a prescription.
I am amazed at Dr. Carter. Had a chance ot watch him testify today and he is an absolutely unimpeachable expert in all aspects cannabis medicinal benefits, botany and growing. He's a practicin Professor at the UW and has 2 practices. He is on the forefront of cannabis medical research and has posted numerous pere reviewed papers in medical journals. And the best thing is, he is the true MMJ expert that is willing to testify on any of the subjects in court. And it looks like he'll be around and involved for the long term.

[killerweed420]

Was in court again today. All testimony is done and just closing statements will be made tomoorow and then goes to the jury.
Both defendents testified which kind of shocked me but both did very well, particularly to Karen who obviously severly ill and isn't expected to live much longer.
Doug Hiatt did an excellent job today as well as his co-attorney Ron Sergie. I've seen Ron work in a few other cases and was not too impressed but he has done very well in the case to keep there side focused.
Dr. Carter's testimony was absoultely crucial in this case, he was very articulate at explaining all thye different medical issues with MMJ.
Will be back there tomorrow to hopefully hear the jury acquit. I am of the opinion that they will not get an acquital but will get a hung jury. And then we'll have to see if the prosecutor decides to refill which would probably mean Karen won't live to see the end of the case.

[killerweed420]

Well the jury went to deliberation on this case this morning and reached there decision at 4:20. We all thought that was pretty funny including the prosecutor.
Both John and Karen were convicted of Manufacture of a controlled substance and were aquitted on intent to distribute. But the manufacture charge is still a felony. According to Michael Dorcey he's not going to push for any jail time for Karen because she is very ill, but John may have to do some time. No decision has yet been made about filling an appeal but it sounds like there probably will be one.
The manufacture charge comes as a result of our good old docs in a box writing on the authorizations how much MJ constitutes a 60 day supply, which is illegal for doctors to do because they are not legally authorized to prescribe, only to recommend. We were all hoping this was going to be a defining case for Mason County but it appears someone else will have to be persecuted before we a defining case can be done.
Both attorneys, Doug Hiatt and Ron Sergei did an excellent job of presenting the case and Dr. Gregory Carter is an excellent expert witness in this case.
I wish to thank the dozen or so people that showed up for the trial. I really wish we could have filled the courtroom but people have things to do that just don't allow them to take time off of work to be able get involved.
Probably in the end the legalizing intiative is going to be our best bet to end the persecution, but the problem is in Washington the legislature can mutilate the intiative after 2 years which is exactly what has happened with our first intiative. If they had left that intiative alone the chances are John and Karen would never have been put through this ordeal.

[jamessr]

So I think I called it on point in this case. Hiatt again messed up a simple MMj case. 1) State v. Fry specifically states the presentment is for an Aff. Def., not for an officer to decide but, a jury. This is so simple to present by motion...then to the jury...did this happen? NOPE.

I didn't read anything about them being denied an Aff. Def., so one would presume from what the cdc has posted, HIATT fucked up again...if they was denied the defense then the court fucked up...my bet is hiatt screwed the pooch on this one. AGAIN.