Canoeing/Clawed leaves

[Faddenator]

Not too hot, not too cold. Any drastic change in root temps can stress the roots.

Can flushing too often (i.e. to correct over-feeding) cause the Ph buffers to dissolve? Just wondering because i flushed twice in two weeks, since I'm pretty close to harvest. I only flushed with 3 gallons each time however (which is my pot's capacity). I still got a good two gallons of runoff per flush though.

Faddenator Reviewed by Faddenator on 02-18-2010. Canoeing/Clawed leaves I thought canoe shaped leaves were caused by over watering, but if I try and let the soil dry out the plant starts to droop pretty bad- The clawing wasn't too bad at first but now they're upside down... :( Its only happening to the smaller leaves, perhaps its lack of light? It only recently became a problem though and the lighting situation has not changed. Despite all this they are still flowering nicely. What else can cause canoed/clawed leaves? Thanks Rating: 5

[marcaka]

Rusty.. its great how you answer questions, it def helps everyone understand a little more... i know i appreciate it.

a few more questions... sorry..... i just like your opinion
1. Maybe I am confused, but I use the Foxfarm trio and it says feed every other watering... my question is, what if I do not need that many days of feeding (feed on monday and they are good till wed., then i water wed/thurs and then dont feed again until sat) do you think I need watering in between my feedings or can I just use my FF if the plants arent needing fed as much right now?

2. what would you say is ideal ph for water? and soil? runoff?

3. If my ph were to be off; could I just add the ph up/down solution with my nutes if they need fed that day, or would you do it on a watering day, and can you add the ph up/down to the water on a watering day? I guess i am trying to ask can the ph up/down be added right with what you are feeding your ladies that day?

[Rusty Trichome]

Can flushing too often (i.e. to correct over-feeding) cause the Ph buffers to dissolve?

Yup. It's a gradual process that all of a sudden stops working.

Just wondering because i flushed twice in two weeks, since I'm pretty close to harvest. I only flushed with 3 gallons each time however (which is my pot's capacity). I still got a good two gallons of runoff per flush though.

Just be careful of oversaturating the soil. Takes a while for sautrated soil to dry enough for the next feeding/watering. Can throw-off your schedules, stressing the plants and the grower.

Rusty.. its great how you answer questions, it def helps everyone understand a little more... i know i appreciate it.

Flattery will get you everywhere. Glad to hear my rants don't go unnoticed, lol. :thumbsup: (thanks for the kind words)

a few more questions... sorry..... i just like your opinion

Me too.

1. Maybe I am confused, but I use the Foxfarm trio and it says feed every other watering... my question is, what if I do not need that many days of feeding (feed on monday and they are good till wed., then i water wed/thurs and then dont feed again until sat) do you think I need watering in between my feedings or can I just use my FF if the plants arent needing fed as much right now?

I Feed 1/2 doses on Mondays and Thursdays. Plain, ph'd water inbetween if necessary. If plant needs a little moisture to last till watering day, ok to give partial waterings. (keep feedings the same) There's a fine line between..."they can last till tomorrow..." and "shit...should have watered last night."

2. what would you say is ideal ph for water? and soil? runoff?

I use phosphoric acid (phDown) to lower my 7.9 wellwater to 6.9ish, then I add my nutrients to that. This brings my ingoing nute mix down to 6.3ish. For plain watering and flushing days, I lower the water to 6.9ish, and use that. I do this in growth stage, and flowering stage.

3. If my ph were to be off; could I just add the ph up/down solution with my nutes if they need fed that day, or would you do it on a watering day, and can you add the ph up/down to the water on a watering day? I guess i am trying to ask can the ph up/down be added right with what you are feeding your ladies that day?

Nothing goes in without being properly ph'd. Measure water, add phUp or phDown, (whichever is necessary) then add your properly measured nutes. Mix well, add to plants.

Tiz why a ph pen is so helpful. You can even ph tinted liquids like nutrient mixes, runoff water...

[marcaka]

hey rusty def appreciate all the info! I have ph up/down on the way so hopefully i can get my ladies looking great again

[Rusty Trichome]

You should only need one or the other, unless you are getting your water from vastly different sources.

[marcaka]

rusty i started a log check it out if you can.. advice