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	02-04-2010, 02:38 AM #11
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Thanks Rusty for the reply.
Ya know, the two plants that have only been in bloom for a week have really bounced back in the new tops department. The old leaves yes, I guess they are old news. They're looking pretty pathetic... but new is good.
Question: How would you propose I add nutes. When I did hydro, I tracked everything anal-retentive style. With dirt, I gave that up and now wish I hadn't.
I've been adding nutes as I described in the T-Form but how SHOULD I do it?
I'm planning on tracking each strain and recording (with pics) the grow process and how it reacts to nutes. (lot of work) but what is your system? Should I add nutes once a week? Every two weeks?
I really need a good place to start and have not found anything anywhere with specifics on How Much nutes to add...
I need info like: Add 1 quart of full strength GH nutes for every 5 gallons of soil. Then add 3 more quarts of water per 5 gallon of soil to dispurse the nutes. Do this once every 10 days...
That's the type of info I really need right now and can't find it. I've searched but haven't found the right "question" I guess because search just comes up empty. Nute cycle? Nute add rate? Nute feeding schedule? Not finding it.
Can you give me a link or do you know the answer to feeding (like they do for hydro)
Any help you can provide on this would be great!
Many thanks for the feedback.. I didn't think anyone was going to reply to my T-Form... that is a bitch to complete, but very well thought out.
Later,
GOG
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	02-04-2010, 02:57 AM #12
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Honestly, I don't think it's that bad. You're going to get some leaves that get burned or curl under. The plants look pretty healthy from what I can see. Those big fan leaves on top can be trimmed away anyways. It will benefit the plant by giving it more light with it out of the way.
Now, if you get a few leaves looking like that...I would look into what nutes you are using and try to find the error there.
Just for comparisons sake....i have a similar set up and I water one gallon for 8 plants every 3 days....hope that helps. But yeah, you can usually feel the top 2 inches....if its damp, wait a day. If it's dry...give them some water.
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	02-04-2010, 01:34 PM #13
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Are you really using all 6 of the nutrients listed? That's two different 3-part series' isn't it? Make sure to use the series formulated for soil. I looked-up GH feeding schedule on thier website, and it's a mess compared to what I'm used to. (Fox Farms schedule) I'm guessing it's a weekly feeding schedule, but it wasn't overtly specific. (plus, I haven't had my coffee yet)
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I feed once a week in the winter, twice a week (but half-strength) during the summer. Same weekly nutrient total per manufacturers recommendations.
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Never-ever add nutrients directly from the bottle. Always add to properly ph'd water.
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On feeding day...I mix-up a 5 gallon batch of nutrient mix.
In my 3 gallon pots, I'll give a tad more than a quart of nutrient mix. 5 gallon pots...about a half gallon of nutrient mix...5 gallon bucket (7 or 8 dry gallons)...about 3 quarts.
Might be a tad more or a tad less, depending on the strain I'm working with at the time, the weather, (ambient heat and humidity)
Quantities listed on bottle are usually a weekly recommendation, added to a gallon of water prior to giving to the ladies. Start with a weekly schedule, and adjust quantity of nutrient mix you add to the pots, not the nutrient:water ratio. The ratio of nutrient solution to add to a gallon of water should remain very constant, and that should not be dicked-with till you know the product.
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Feed your ladies once a week. Plain, ph'd water inbetween if necessary.
After you add the nutrient mixture, do not add more water to 'evenly disperse'. Soil is like a sponge, and will do that on it's own. It will also flush-out all the nutrients you just added. Never re-use runoff water.
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	02-04-2010, 06:51 PM #14
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one more thing, it looked like a ph flux reaction, with that said #4 rstarts getting acidic in the 3rd -4th month so i would monitor the runoff
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	02-04-2010, 09:43 PM #15
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Tiz one of the reasons I wait a couple of weeks into the flowering stage to transplant into the final containers. The buffering capacity fades as time goes by, and will cause the runoff ph drift. (That and the rootbound issues close to harvest time,
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	02-04-2010, 10:27 PM #16
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That is what I think messed my ph up a bit was the buffer running out of the soil mix. I think I may worry less about stress of transplant during flower and use your method to avoid the buffer being used up. It is nice to read another's thread and find info that is perfect for what you wanted to know.
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	02-05-2010, 12:16 PM #17
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Frosted: did the rep I sent ya say "thumbsup" or did it show the smiley? (curious if the smiley's work there)
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	02-05-2010, 11:34 PM #18
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Yep! thanks
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	02-07-2010, 06:38 PM #19
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Rusty, to clarify my answers to feeding... and thanks very much for the reply... The nutes are all included in the Flora series... per GH factory rep who has been helping me with feeding. I mix nutes in water, then ph to 6.4 I had not been doing that up to a few weeks before I noticed problems... had been running 7.8 well water. Yikes.
I will definitely mix up my nutes at 1/2 strength now and apply all at once rather than a "nuted water then clear water" method I was using.
The plants look great now. New growth is looking normal since the flush. Waiting for plants to dry out before adding new nutes.
I am concerned about the comments about #4 getting acidic and you having to change soil after they are in flower? Can you expand on this?
Thanks
GOG
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	04-10-2013, 06:28 PM #20
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Ive gotten the same hooked tips numerous times, and what i do to correct is flush them. How ever, I found this thread because i was looking for others experiences with hooked tips and im always loking for more info.
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