So I had a thought...

[GetThisOrDie]

Whats up guys...

I would think that if you vegged for 9 1/2 weeks you should have seen the sex at around 4 weeks of veg. I dont know if its strain specific but you should get preflowers on mature plants in veg.

Ive also read about that gradual light cycle thing... everything ive read shows that the period of extended darkness between veg and flower is the fastest way compared to just flipping or the gradual cycle like the one you came up with. From what ive seen and read... 36hours of darkness in between boosts flowering by up to a week.

just some info to toss around to talk about!

:jointsmile:

[jakester]

Well, I like the idea. I posted something about this in the advanced section but it didn't really fly. It makes sense that if a plant is programmed to work a certain light schedule, especially a "outdoor" plant might benefit from this graded change over to 12/12.

The only way to know is to do batches side by side with all other factors being equal. One batch goes straight 12/12 at the same time another batch of clones goes into gradual change time. I know your flower time would be longer but would other plant features be affected favorably? Size of colas, thc and resin content?

Let us know what you think. Do control groups...like anyone has an identical flower chamber to experiment with.

[bcals0087]

Now my question is do you think that even though flowering might be boosted by a week, that it could possibly effect yield in the end. I've also read that due to the extended period of darkness between veg and flower, harvesting will be sooner.

Idealy, plants should grow stress free, other than natural stress from mother nature ie. wind, rain, extreme high's and extreme low's of temperature. Something as important as light schedule can be a high stress factor for some growers. People end up with hermies or males due to the stress of inconsistant 'days and nights' all the time. now given some of these people may have no control over these incidences where there may have been a power surge, or a ballast blowing a fuse, or just any curveball that life throws us when we're trying to accomplish something significant. So, even something as little as just switching the timer to 12/12, puts some form a stress on the plant. This is an 'artificial' environment, and the goal is to try to imitate nature to the best of our ability. It's like artificial flavoring in a juice drink opposed to natural flavoring in a juice. Natural always taste better.

So by having a gradual decrease in the light schedule, flowering may not start as quickly as the 'artificial technique', but yield and quality might be greater in the end. The only way to find out is to do what jakester said and do a controlled experiment. Sounds like it could be fun haha.

[redtails]

Redtails, I'm assuming you have other clones in another area, most likely on the same schedule as the one on the window sill. did they take longer to show sex?

I don't, the bonsai mom & her first clone are all I have of this strain as well as 1/3 of a budding autoflower under 24hrs light. I'm actually gifting these two to a coworker when the auto finishes around V-day & I'll be going on a break while I do a few things. Wish I had the time to do a controlled test, I can ask him if he wants to test it out but I think he's gotta warm up first as he's pretty new.

[jakester]

I wish I had two identical flower chambers to test this out in.

[lampost]

You know I always used to think about doing it this way too... not as gradually as you're suggesting though. I was just going to do it over about a week period... an hour less light a day maybe.

I'd like to do it this way, but I don't have the time. I wouldn't think it'd make that much difference though. Flowering still works.... I think the abrupt change just introduces a stress on the plant (an unnatural one at that), but it's been shown that this stress can be recovered from. Maybe it would increase yields by never being stressed, but I bet it would be a negligible increase.

You know, this is still not imitating nature. It's probably less stress, but in the summer each successive day is only shorter by like ~1 minute or so!!! THAT would be a PAIN IN THE ASS to recreate!

[bcals0087]

haha lampost that is true, I could see that being a very big pain in the ass. Having identical flowering chambers is not common but i too would love to see the difference. some day...:jointsmile:

[lampost]

For sure. Nice plants BTW...

Lovely LSTy ladies

[bcals0087]

thank you much they just finished and i'm extremely pumped to cure them and then smoke them!

[ForgetClassC]

im sorry i don't need to defend myself on how much research i've done. Thats for me to know and you to not because your not here reasearching with me. Nor did I not think this method has never been tried. obviously it has been, I must of not been searching in the right field. I had a high moment, had a thought and felt like writing down so who the hell gives you the right to insult me for my own ideas and thoughts. I'm sure you've had plenty of questions that you couldn't seem to find the answer to, have you not? And many a times where you've had 'high' moments? So please, no comments from the peanut gallery especially if you know damn well that they are fightin words.

Back to the thread, sometimes its nice to have recent information posted in the forum so people who ARE lazy when it comes to searching will find threads like this easily.

Good day

Ok cool guy, you must have memory issues, because you were the one that started "them fightin' words", all I said was, "This isn't a new thought", than you being mister big balls over here decided that you should talk big. I didn't start anything that wasn't thrown at me first, so think, again, before you act.

-C