Thanks Bigtopsfinn :thumbsup:Yeah it is a veg light for sure but im not sure what the calvin rating is on it:stoned:....so far it seems the temp will peak at 86 to 87f if the room door stays shut for 5hours+ so its pretty manageable now, just open it for 15 min or so to drop it 10 or 15f :jointsmile:......i have thought of HPS lighting for budding but its only feasible to me if i can pop an HPS bulb in my fixture and its doesn't cost 500 bucks. The idea of using compact Flouros was given to me in this thread so i was just thinking of making some vertical columns with compact florescents alongside the Plants.