Quote Originally Posted by rudy2010
Sorry if you think my purpose here is to defend products sold at head shops. If you think plain water will allow you to pass a test for marijuana just one day after stopping smoking then good luck. Also if you think the simple test they have where you pee in a self testing cup and if it does not turn the wrong color is the same as the labs where they can analyze every element in the urine are even remotely similar you really are misinformed. There are definitely differely levels of testing for marijuana as well as other drugs.
Its actually YOU that is misinformed. Because if you spent more time researching drug testing, their methodologies, and how they work (and less time touting detox products) youd discover that the instant test kits are no more different in function than the Immunoassays used at the lab for the initial screening. Regardless of what you think or believe, drug testing is not CSI. Even if a sample is sent to a lab for analysis (as opposed to an on-the-spot instant test) an Immunoassay is always performed first, and if it fails that, the sample is sent to the GC/MS for confirmation. Dont take my word for it - check out the regulations and take a peek of the analytical testing methods listed by the DHHS/SAMHSA (the governing body that overlooks and regulates all practicing labs in the US) on their site and see it for yourself. Arent you in for a surprise.
And heres another bit of factual info thats going to crisp your noodle: Even though the cutoff levels are different, a 50 ng Immunoassay is equivalent to the 15 ng GC/MS. How can that be, you might ask? The 50ng IA recognizes the whole composite of the 31 metabolite concentations with THC-COOH being among the composite. In order to test negative, that whole composite must register below 50ng.
The GC/MS is lower at 15 ng, because the machine recognizes only one metabolite concentration: THC-COOH. In order to test negative, that one metabolite concentration must register below 15 ng. Again dont take my word for it. Do your research using your favorite search engine on the mechanics of an Immunoassay and the GC/MS. Yes, you will be in for a bunch of surprises.


Education. Such a great thing.


Quote Originally Posted by rudy2010
I noticed you dismissed what I have seen with my own eyes as anecdotal accounts. I am not going to give names, dates and locations but I definitely know folks who have failed tests and who have passed tests when smoking marijuana. What personal experiences do you have in this area. Apparently little or none.
Quote Originally Posted by rudy2010
Researching, testing and examining the results as well as interviewing numerous individuals are a legitimate way to find if any product is effective. Just research does not cut it. Talk to some real world people.
"Multiple pieces of anecdotal evidence do not equal scientific fact." - Rhizome

If everything in the world were to be based on personal experience, it would be a mighty sad existence.... And like I already stated, anybody can fabricate an anecdotal account out of whole cloth, especially if their objective is to further the touting of some product.

The tests in no way, shape, or form establishes that a product alone was effective in help passing a U/A. What if your acquaintances told you theyve dyed their eyebrows blue before taking a U/A and passed? Are you going to sit there and tell everyone that dyeing your eyebrows will cause a person to pass a U/A?