Someone please help (Soil Questions)

[Phormant]

I am a new grower and I need help choosing an easy soil. I know I should just go with Fox Farms Ocean Forrest but I have a Lowes Credit card and I am growing on a budget. I am leaning towards "Kellogg Champion Mix" or The Patio Soil. Does anyone have experience with using Kellogg as the main soil for their plants and have you had good luck with your harvest. I am planting many plants in a 30 gallon tub. Like 10 plants per tub. SHOULD I USE KELLOGG BRAND SOIL? This is my 1st grow so I am going straight from germination straight into the tubs. Then I will clone and germinate in a separate room. Is kellogg worth the try or should I break down and just go with Fox Farms? I am also planning on using the Fox Farms "Big Bloom" nutes along with the Kellogg soil.

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Phormant Reviewed by Phormant on 01-26-2010. Someone please help (Soil Questions) I am a new grower and I need help choosing an easy soil. I know I should just go with Fox Farms Ocean Forrest but I have a Lowes Credit card and I am growing on a budget. I am leaning towards "Kellogg Champion Mix" or The Patio Soil. Does anyone have experience with using Kellogg as the main soil for their plants and have you had good luck with your harvest. I am planting many plants in a 30 gallon tub. Like 10 plants per tub. SHOULD I USE KELLOGG BRAND SOIL? This is my 1st grow so I am going Rating: 5

[anbesol]

You had it right on your first words...Fox Farm Ocean Forest....I love that shit. Honestly nothing there is going to be the best but if you have to go with anything, I would say just get some starter seed soil. They sell it in bigger bags and then you can just give your plants the extra nutrients. There is a book called "Grow 8oz of bud for less" they recommend using the Miracle grow potting soil...but ive always had bad experiences with miracle grow in the very early days. If you can get to a hydro store and buy your soil. Theres plenty of shit you can buy for your grow at lowes besides soil

[Phormant]

Yeah. I may just have to break down and buy the Fox Farms. Everyone pretty much swears by the stuff and always positive results. Ive heard many horror stories about Miracle Grow but I guess whatever works for the person right? I am just so damn conflicted being my budget. I spent quite a bit on a perfect grow room and some very amazing seeds. So are you saying no to the Kellogg soil? or just go with some organic soil and say some Fox Farms "Big Bloom" Nutes? Also do you think it is wise to use the 30 gallon tubs for say 5-10 plants each? also I am using this disclaimer because well... it's true.

*Disclaimer: I do not know anything about Cannabis and Cannabis Growing. Anything Said is Made up Fiction and All images Posted are available freely on the internet. This is a Public Computer. This Forum Is used as a Fantasy World and anything said is not true about myself or anyone i know*

[lampost]

Yeah. I may just have to break down and buy the Fox Farms. Everyone pretty much swears by the stuff and always positive results. Ive heard many horror stories about Miracle Grow but I guess whatever works for the person right? I am just so damn conflicted being my budget. I spent quite a bit on a perfect grow room and some very amazing seeds. So are you saying no to the Kellogg soil? or just go with some organic soil and say some Fox Farms "Big Bloom" Nutes? Also do you think it is wise to use the 30 gallon tubs for say 5-10 plants each? also I am using this disclaimer because well... it's true.

*Disclaimer: I do not know anything about Cannabis and Cannabis Growing. Anything Said is Made up Fiction and All images Posted are available freely on the internet. This is a Public Computer. This Forum Is used as a Fantasy World and anything said is not true about myself or anyone i know*

FFOF is slightly hot for clones. If you're transplanting clones be prepared to get some burnt, deformed, fucked-up leaves for a week or two until they can handle the nutrients in the soil. I'd cut it with Light Warrior. However, once the clones "take" to the soil they grow VERY well in FFOF.

I did get some fungus gnats that I'm suspecting came from the FFOF, but I've only seen a couple and they don't really seem to be causing many problems (at this point).

[eqx420]

I'd guess the optimal soil would be the soil from which the strain you are growing came from.

But generally, you will want porous, sandy soil with good drainage. Right now I'm using regular house flower soil mixed with the remaining sand and gravel left in the bottom of my drainage pellet bag. Getting get good results so far.

I'm gonna try with a soil adapted for cactus-like plants next time. A friend did that and it turns out beautiful.

Of course, you could get more expensive, hemp-specialized stuff from grow shops. I'm just a guerilla hobby grower with a piece of homemade stealth-furniture to grow in so I tend to MacGyver most stuff!

Most cannabis plants will prefer lightly dry to semi-moist soil, but not wet.
(Also, wet soil seems to get mold problems faster)

They also prefer a soil pH of around 5 to 6. Personally I have problems keeping it under 6.7, but I've done well so far, never killed any plants!

Don't forget use drainage pellets at the bottom inch or so in the pot!

[Phormant]

Thats pretty sweet. definitely sounds like a McGyver way to do things. I guess I am just lazy when it comes to buying shit. I have a Lowes Credit Card and wanted to see if their was anything there that would produce good to quality plants. I am starting with White Widow and White Rhino seeds. The Kellogg Patio Plus is rich with Bat Guano and Chicken meal or whatever. I may try the "make my own" soil from Perilite and sand and shit but I want to avoid a lot of ingredients and measurments and use my time tending to my "babies" I havnt heard a lot of bad things about the Kellogg top soil over at lowes. I may try your McGyver style but do you know anything about using the Kellogg soil with growing cannabis or any other "regular" soil that I can use with some proper Fox Farms Nutes?

[eqx420]

Dude, the White Rhino is some of the best pot I've ever seen. You won't belive the amount of resin it produces.

I posted a pic of mine in this same forum section.

[Phormant]

what kind of soil did you use?

[Phormant]

I decided to go with "Forrest Magic" Potting soil. It has a good amount of peralite and nutes. Now my question to you all is about germination. This is my 1st grow so should I germinate my seeds in Fox Farms Light warrior and then transfer them to my other medium after 2 weeks or since this is the 1st grow should I just start them in this medium and when cloning time comes around do the traditional method of a separate room in a starter soil.

For my medium I am going to use fish emulsion and fox farms "Big Bloom" what do you all think of these methods. Successful? or am I doomed for disaster?

[GetThisOrDie]

Whats up..

To be honest with you... Ive grown all my soil plants in miracle grow and NEVER had a problem. Always great bud. Even mixed MG potting soil with MG perlite and Scotts potting soil. That combo is working great.

Im sure the expensive soil like FF or whatever is great.. but MG gets the job done no doubt and its cheap. Ive even germinated in MG potting mix before with no burns. I also give smaller doses of nutes to them after 2 weeks and dont really worry too much about the nutes in the soil. Until I have a good reason or when the grow shop isnt so damn far away... I will continue using MG.

Also to the 5-10 plants in a 30g tub question... Im sure it can be done but its probably a better idea to get them their own pots. That way if you run into a problem then it might be isolated to a couple plants that you can easily resolve compared to having it affect all 5-10. Plus if you get a hermie or male you can chop it and not worry about the roots rotting or tangling into the other plants.

Hope my info helps and goodluck on your grow!