using foxfarm soil dry????

[redtails]

I'm getting the 2cu ft bag of Happy Frog for $20 here, & BB/GB is $14/$20.

[the image reaper]

around here (butte county) quarts of Grow Big, etc. about $13, if I remember right ... the Ocean Forest is usually around $16-18 a bag, but main reason I quit using it, is because it's just too 'hot' ... great for adult plants, but I'm sticking with the old Whitney Farms (they were bought out by 'Scotts/Miracle Grow' a year or so ago, so they may go nationwide, but also, may change its quality, I hope not :smokin:

[Rusty Trichome]

If you are opening a bag of soil and it's dry...likely it's been sitting around a while. Lack of moisture kills-off the beneficial bacteria in the soil, but should be ok once re-hydrated. But if that's the case...watch for unwanted bugs.

Give yourself a chance for success. Were I just learning to grow...I'd likely start with the best soil (and nutrients) I could find, and learn while using that. Good products usually produce a consistent result. Buying soil that has been treated like dirt can often lead to inconsistent results. Having said that...I still buy the best I can find locally. (Dr. Q's Filthy Rich Potting Soil, and Fox Farms nutrient 3-pack)

I live in the desert and during the summer, ambient humidity and heat makes it unnecessary to add perlite to the mix. My plants need watering almost daily. But during the cold and sometimes moist winter, I have to add around 20% or so additional perlite to lighten the soil. Otherwise the soil retains too much moisture before it's time to fertilize again per my Fox Farms schedule.

The point being...get to know your soil. Instead of jumping around looking for the perfect mix. Not all mixes are cannabis-ready, and might need adjusting to suit your needs. When in doubt...add perlite. Especially in a moisture-control formula. Different seasons will create different conditions in your garden. <doh>

[rudy2010]

Man I am shocked to hear some folks pay $20 per bag for Happy Frog. I thought it was the further from Humbolt the more expensive but that does not seem to be completely true. If you need several bags of Fox Farms products try to go to Friedman's in Ukiah the Happy Frog is $7.89 and the Ocean Forest is about $1 more. They had the Light Warrior starting soil on sale at Hydro Pacific just across from Friedmans. I have not tried that product though.

Rusty my plot is at about 2500 feet in the forest so I get hot dry summer days and rain and snow in the fall going to winter. My soil is already pretty decent already since it is already mostly forest loam and I can easily find more to add. Also since my holes are reused the dirt looks like potting soil when you start. I will probably add the Happy Frog soil supplement 50/50 to the existing soil then use Ocean Forest around the fresh plantings. I am making 3 x 3 holes so need lots of soil.

[IrishViking]

Wow, I live in southern Oregon and I pay $10 for a 1.5cu. ft. bag of Ocean Forrest and $13 for 2cu. ft. Happy Frog and $13 for 1 cu. ft. Light Warrior. I also get a discount if i buy 10 or more. :silly:

[rudy2010]

I wonder exactly where Fox Farms is located. The soil should be cheapest the closer you get to the source. I think it is in Humboldt County.

[disoBAYish]

I pay $14 a bag for FF Ocean Forest at a local nursery in the Bay Area, CA. My clones seem to like it, so I am sticking with it.

I'm going with the Fox Farm nutrient trio at about 1/3 strength every other watering. It's been working for me so far.

[Rusty Trichome]

You'd have solid results using the FF weekly feeding schedule. (it's on the FF website) Using bottle directions, they assume you aren't using the other two in the trio, and it can screw-up your ladies if you are.

I personally feed twice a week, but at half-strength with each feeding. Same weekly totals as listed on the website, but it's easier on my ladies.

Soluables not recommended till you know what you're doing. (couple of dozen grows) They can easily overstress the ladies and have negative results if overused.

[GROWxMOREx420]

You'd have solid results using the FF weekly feeding schedule. (it's on the FF website) Using bottle directions, they assume you aren't using the other two in the trio, and it can screw-up your ladies if you are.

I personally feed twice a week, but at half-strength with each feeding. Same weekly totals as listed on the website, but it's easier on my ladies.

Soluables not recommended till you know what you're doing. (couple of dozen grows) They can easily overstress the ladies and have negative results if overused.

I don't even use the soluables.... save the extra money.

[PKroniK]

I have experimented, and found that mixxing the FF ocean forest 2 to 1 with light warrior with added moisture, and bag it back up and let it sit for about 6 months tends to take some of the heat out of the soil. I found using it right out of the bag was still a little hot early into the grow. I always toss a couple red worms into each pot, one of my best kept secrets. Download the calender from fox farms web sight, and never mix the liquids and solubles when you feed, alternate days, and you cant go wrong.