Finn'SCRog - Trainwreck & Mystery Sativa

[bigtopsfinn]

Veg Day 1

Hello and welcome to my third grow

It's been a while since my last grow. Spent 5 months in Amsterdam doing an internship and had no chance to grow But at least there was plenty of overpriced, but still good, bud to be had. Back to the topic; I'm back in frigid Finland and starting my new grow project :dance:

Equipment:

Seeds: Feminized Trainwreck from Greenhouse Seeds Co. Flowering time is 8-9 weeks. Also picked up about a hundred 'Mystery Sativa (MS)' seeds from a local grower. Flowering times are 10-12 weeks for these seeds. Real lineage is unknown, except that they are from a hermie, but I was told that 1 out of 3 was a 'good' plant and wouldn't hermie, so I'm taking my chances. More on that later...
Soil: Testing out a couple different local soils: Rainbow Flower Soil and Biolan Musta Multa. These soils are pre-fertilized, so I won't be using my nutes very much. I'll mix in about a quarter to one third of potting gravel (Closest thing to perlite I can find here, it's very light and airy). For the seedlings I'm using Kekkila Cactus and Seedling soil plus vermiculite.
Nutes: Canna Terra Vega 3-1-4 (for veg if needed) , Canna Terra Flores 2-2-4, Plagron, Green Sensation Top Activator 0-9-10 (Flores for flowering weeks 1-6/7, the top activator for weeks 2-6/7 of flowering as needed)
Light: 400 Watt HPS (getting a new bulb soon, probably Philips Son-T-Plus 55,000 Lumens) with Cooltube 12cm x 39cm long
Ventilation: 1 RUCK Tube fan RK100, 220m³ per hour, (129cfm), 10cm & 12cm ducts. Also a huge (for this setup) 15" axial fan that I'll try to squeeze in somewhere in the closet to move fresh air around.
Odor Control: Active Carbon Filter, 250 m³ per hour. 50cm long with 12cm connections, approx. 2,3 kg active carbon filling
Closet & Cabinet: Now a new cabinet: 97cm x 57cm x 174cm tall (38in. x 22.5in. x 68.5in.) for veg and flowering. I kept my old closet: 57cm x 57cm x 172cm tall (22.5in x 22.5in. x 67.5in.) to be used as a 'dark room' for the MS's, as they will be flowering sooner than the TW's (also temporary veg room)
Vegetation: 18/6 light cycle

Up until today:

Germinated the last two Trainwreck (TW) seeds I had on Monday Jan. 18. Then decided the next day to sprout three of the Mystery Sativas (MS) hoping to get at least one that wouldn't hermie.

One of the TW's, TW2, emerged from the soil on Jan. 21 and is doing great. MS2 and MS3 are just poking out of the soil today, Jan. 23. I can see TW1 just beneath the soil surface trying to come up. MS1 is nowhere to be seen, but I did germinate it in a cup of water (BTW - not recommended but I didn't know how old these seeds were...) so it should pop through in a couple days.

The Plans:

The TW's will be veged for about 4-5 weeks. I'll LST first and then start the Scrog just before flipping the lights. Each TW will have their own screen cut into a triangular shape (makes it easier to move around and flush). Might also take some clones before flowering.

I'm expecting for MS's to hermie, so I'll only veg them for a week or two before putting them in the dark room for 12 hours every night to initiate flowering. If I find a good MS, I'll grow it out, harvest and re-veg to take clones from. I don't think I'll be putting these under a screen, don't really want to waste my time if they are going to hermie. But some LST will definitely be done.

I'm expecting now that 2 of the MS's will hermie and be killed off, so I'll also try to take a couple clones from the better TW. I really want to keep my plant count down to 5 total (including clones) but we'll see how it goes.



I'll be updating about once a week, more if there's anything else going on. Hope you enjoy the show! :jointsmile:

Pic 1: New cabinet. Still need some duct, fresh active carbon and a new HPS before I put it together.
Pic 2: TW2 under a 20w CFL
Pic 3: TW1, MS1, MS2 and MS3
Pic 4: MS2 poking out with seed hull still attached
Pic 5: MS3 emerging

bigtopsfinn Reviewed by bigtopsfinn on 01-23-2010. Finn'SCRog - Trainwreck & Mystery Sativa Veg Day 1 Hello and welcome to my third grow :) It's been a while since my last grow. Spent 5 months in Amsterdam doing an internship and had no chance to grow :( But at least there was plenty of overpriced, but still good, bud to be had. Back to the topic; I'm back in frigid Finland and starting my new grow project :dance: Equipment: Seeds: Feminized Trainwreck from Greenhouse Seeds Co. Flowering time is 8-9 weeks. Also picked up about a hundred 'Mystery Sativa (MS)' seeds from a Rating: 5

[Buffalo Soldier]

subscribed.......can't wait to see this one!!:thumbsup:

[redtails]

Sounds good, I'll be sure to check it out!

[bigtopsfinn]

Nice to have you aboard Buffalo and Redtails :jointsmile:

Little update: MS2 was looking really shitty with the seed hull attached. The poor thing was just laying on the soil, so I decided to do something about it. With surgical precision, I took 2 sewing needles and carefully managed to pry it open. Let me tell ya, it was shut pretty good. One half is still attached so I just put it back with the others and hoping it will open up normally now. I also sprayed a little water to soften up the shell before its operation. Not too worried about it ATM, still have plenty of those seeds, and they were free. Now I'm just really counting on the second TW to surface... fingers crossed.

[frostedwonder]

Hey I wouldn't miss this grow! Pulling up a couch and getting comfy...:thumbsup:

[MonkeyBone]

4 girls in an enclosed location, sexy things on the horizon!!!

:thumbsup:

[bigtopsfinn]

Hiya Frosted and MonkeyBone :noel:


No sign of the other TW or 2 MS's, so I'm germinating a couple more of the MS's just in case. Not having another TW would be a big disappointment, but I'll take what I can get at this point I'll still be scrogin the 1 TW, just might have to veg it a little longer so I can get some more out of it.

Thanks for stoppin by :jointsmile:

[bigtopsfinn]

Just a quick update:

Finally got the new closet put together, temps are a little high, between 28-30C, but I'm not too worried about it. I bought a new 400w Philips Son-T-Plus HPS bulb and fresh active carbon, but I won't be installing them until the plants get a little bigger. For now I'm going without a carbon filter and using my old 400w which has been through 2 full grows.

TW1 and MS2 are doing great. They've been under their own 20w CFL's for the week and just now put them into the new closet.

TW2 didn't make it, also had some bad luck (or just poor gardening on my part) with some of the other MS seedlings.

Started 4 more MS and they all surfaced a couple days ago. Now they're in the corner of the new grow room.

Couple pics for ya, another update next week :jointsmile:

[frostedwonder]

Hey that is one hellava fan you have in your cabinet! It will do the job nicely for sure. When I switched to new fresh bulbs I could almost hear my plants thank me...almost I mean I am not that crazy...or am I? lol

[bigtopsfinn]

Hey that is one hellava fan you have in your cabinet! It will do the job nicely for sure. When I switched to new fresh bulbs I could almost hear my plants thank me...almost I mean I am not that crazy...or am I? lol

haha yup the fan looks ridiculous, I know :rastasmoke: haven't found a smaller one for cheap enough yet (I have to be stingy cuz uh da wifey ). I think it'll do just fine to move the air around in there, plenty of empty space at the top.

Crazy? You? Naaahhhh :jointsmile: