Haitiâ??s tragedy: A crime of US imperialism

[terjeSSS]

u.s. imperialism? is that why haitians speak french?

[RedLocks]

u.s. imperialism? is that why haitians speak french?

very insightful, your lil comment almost made me forget that Haiti won its freedom from France in the early 1800s, and were done bleeding the country dry in the 1920s, which just happens to be shortly before the US government first carried out a occupation on the country that lasted nearly 20 years...

[senorx12562]

Either we don't do enough or we do too much. Can't win. We are really the only country doing much at all. The U.S. immediately sends $100 million in aid (I know, its booby-trapped, or bribery, or something else nefarious ) while China and India contribute $1 million each ( a conrtibution matched by Brad and Angelina by the way), and we are the bad guys? Fuck you all. We should just leave the entire rest of the world to its own devices. Starve your own people, kill each other, I don't give a shit anymore. We should start selling arms to both sides in every conflict around the world, and immediately stop ALL foreign aid of any kind. Want food? Buy it. Got no money? Tough shit, starve, you backasswards ungrateful barbarian SOB.

[RedLocks]

and the topic flies over someone's head..., but I like how you transferred from the topic of military occupation and 100s of years of mistreatment and abuse of the country into brad and angelina's donations, I got a good laugh thanks. Sure hope the cash is going directly to the government though or worthwhile charities cuz if they giving a million to red cross haiti only gonna see bout 150k of that lol... but since yuh brought up money, this would be a good time for France to repay Haiti the money it extorted from it :thumbsup:

Rather than giving donations, it would be preferable that they cancel Haitiâ??s debt: totally, unconditionally and immediately. Can we really speak of donations when we know that this most of this money will either be used to repay foreign debt or to implement â??national development projectsâ?� decided on the basis of the interests of these creditors or local elites?

[senorx12562]

and the topic flies over someone's head..., but I like how you transferred from the topic of military occupation and 100s of years of mistreatment and abuse of the country into brad and angelina's donations, I got a good laugh thanks. Sure hope the cash is going directly to the government though or worthwhile charities cuz if they giving a million to red cross haiti only gonna see bout 150k of that lol... but since yuh brought up money, this would be a good time for France to repay Haiti the money it extorted from it :thumbsup:

Guess I'm just a moron, brainwashed by the U.S. Government. If only I could be as enlightened as you.

[MonkeyBone]

I don't know shit about all this. What I know is there is less people on the earth.

:wtf:

[superskunk1]

just the fact that you guys are discussing something that you dont have the power to change, should give you an idea of what and why it happened.

We are talking about the government. WTF the same people that made cannabis illegal, the same people that we blame for every tragedy.

nobody here has the power to do anything so it is our job to help ourselves and anyone in our arms reach.

If you believe in GOD pray, if you believe in the government pay

whatever floats your boat, all i can do is feel bad about this kind of situation happening to such a poor country.

[senorx12562]

just the fact that you guys are discussing something that you dont have the power to change, should give you an idea of what and why it happened.

We are talking about the government. WTF the same people that made cannabis illegal, the same people that we blame for every tragedy.

nobody here has the power to do anything so it is our job to help ourselves and anyone in our arms reach.

If you believe in GOD pray, if you believe in the government pay

whatever floats your boat, all i can do is feel bad about this kind of situation happening to such a poor country.

Absolutely. The first thing I thought when I heard of the tragedy in Haiti was "why them of all people, haven't they suffered enough already?" Of course, I'm American. so it was really my financial interests I was worried about. In fact, I'm thinkin' I might want to call down an earthquake upon someone. Hmmmm?

[LOC NAR on probation]

So what your saying is they have it better than most in the states.

I live next to the biggest Amphibios Marine base in the states and let me tell you it is me running around after a badass herricane tears us a new ass helping the marines get it back together. Not the other way round mind you.

They are never allowed to help civie's here. Why not ?

Because our military can not spend money on civilians in the States.

I feel very bad for the people of Hati and will help all I can. But as soon as we leave it just goes back to what it was before if we do not leave military police. Can you say crooked beurocrats ?

I think if we the people are to be blamed for such as this. Then we NEED to go back to the old ways.

If WE THE PEOPLE have to help you then you must become one of the PEOPLE.

[RedLocks]

just the fact that you guys are discussing something that you dont have the power to change, should give you an idea of what and why it happened.

We are talking about the government. WTF the same people that made cannabis illegal, the same people that we blame for every tragedy.

nobody here has the power to do anything so it is our job to help ourselves and anyone in our arms reach.

If you believe in GOD pray, if you believe in the government pay

whatever floats your boat, all i can do is feel bad about this kind of situation happening to such a poor country.

Currently the homeless of Philadelphia are banding together to gahter goods to donate to Haiti, so if the homeless can stand up and help like this, all of us can. Remember, if you're going to donate money, check out what charity is the most worthwhile. I saw there is a watchdog group that monitors charitable organizations, not sure if it was these guys or not American Institute of Philanthropy - Charity Watchdog Helping Donors Make Informed Giving Decisions

I am a volunteer for a "charitable" organization, and I see from the inside how much of it is greed and lining the pockets of the people who run the shit, and how much of it is actually charity. It's because of this I am wary when donating, so my advice is, do a lil research and decide for yourself where a donation can do the most good. Personally I would suggest Y�©le Haiti - Blog but it is all up to the individual.

-Bless