HID Time factor manipulation

[Dogznova]

OK... You can also use t5's to target blue 420nm also. They are sold as fish tank lights. Actinic 420 Bulbs, they also have Actinic 460 Lamps. But if you have the choice for your blue light it's best to stay below 445nm. Fluorescent and t5's are ok as supplemental blue light sources. But if you don't have 440nm blue LED's I would use a small MH mixed with the blue fluor's for the blue light source. Of course this is providing your trying to do a 24 hour flowering and not a standard 12/12.

So my question is what type of flowering are you trying to do?

[jakester]

The link to the PAD manual is one of the last post in the uv-b tread in the advanced section here started by oldmac.. The manual explains PAD lighting.. It dosen't explain THC though.. Sorry

So unless you can point me to some sort of study that shows these incredible increases in THC I am gonna have to go ahead and call bullsh*t on that.

2 to 3X the THC? Come on. Why isn't everyone doing this? I need to see something more than just your say-so, call me crazy.

[Dogznova]

If you live in MI and have a mmj card I can show you the difference.. But ya it can be called BS if you would like, I'm ok with that..The reason everyone is not doing it is because....They don't know how.. It's only been discovered in the last 3 to 5 years with LED's ability to grow with separated spectrums.. And it's only been public since NOV 09.

[jakester]

If you live in MI and have a mmj card I can show you the difference.. But ya it can be called BS if you would like, I'm ok with that..The reason everyone is not doing it is because....They don't know how.. It's only been discovered in the last 3 to 5 years with LED's ability to grow with separated spectrums.. And it's only been public since NOV 09.

I can understand that but if you are claiming that it will double or triple THC content with no tests you are just spreading unsubstantiated misinformation about your beloved technique. Let's not become hype machines, be real here. Say what it actually does from your perspective. Say, it seems to increase resin production and from smoking it would seem that much more THC is produced...etc. In your opinion, it could double or triple THC content. I say, no way. Maybe it bumps it a few percent or grows more of the psychoactive components in ratios that make the high seems stronger etc.

But these are all just opinions until someone comes up with some lab tests.

[Dogznova]

Sure I understand your making good points.. Let me ask you this. Do you think outdoor grown med's have more THC?

[jakester]

Sure I understand your making good points.. Let me ask you this. Do you think outdoor grown med's have more THC?

I honesty don't know. I guess that would depend on which outdoor environment VS which indoor.

[scott9116]

Let it be known that I've been known to take things too far. Rusty, I don't recommend that anyone do anything that I do. I'm comfortable with electricity. I build and modify welding and plasma equipment routinely. If others aren't they can spend the cash on HO fixtures. I can afford $18 for each of the bulbs easier than I can LEDS. Availability is important to me as I can't drive and can barely walk. I'm a very patient man. If the internet didn't exist I'd be fucked. I have lived my whole life with the idea that if you don't push things as far as you can, you will never know what you are capable of. I started growing under HPS years ago. When I began adding flouro tubes my smoke got better. I started using CFLs for side lights. It got better. I added UV, better yet. This is the natural evolution of growing. This could also be due selective breeding but every thing progresses.

Yes, it's stupidly complicated but not really expensive when compared to an LED grow this size. Plenty of work though. I'm hoping to get most of the hard stuff done before my next surgery. IF not it might be quite a ways down the road. Worth it? If I can double the potency of half of the grow Absolutely.

While this seems to be a large grow; My NorthernLights and Hashberry usually finished out about 14-16". My KC36, P36 and 8mileshigh finish out about 20-22". Southernlights is about 18"-20". I grow for quality not yield. Not a commercial grow. Just meds for myself and a couple others. SL= NLxHBxKC36xEMH. 36milesofhashberrylightshigh takes too long to say.

The 4ft disks turn once every 30minutes. The plants toward the center probably wont benefit and might turn in to cucumbers due to bleed over, the HPS placement might help drown the Flouros out though. I will place my most stable strain in the center. My Hashberry is pretty much bullet proof. NL and SL will live toward the outside and get the most alternating light. KC36 and EMH I don't think are stable enough for this venture. I didn't really have enough time to figure out the EMH before I took my break from growing, great taste but not all that powerful or hardy. But I do have seeds for all these strains.

First step: get some mommas going for clones while I start building the new flowerroom.

[Dogznova]

Jake...that's cool... IMO the PAD method brings the outdoor THC producing time factor of 1.7 indoors.. But again, It's my opinion that the outdoor sun light's time factor of 1.7 is the optimum range for producing THC in the first palace.. It's also my opinion that the sun even has a 1.7 time factor.


Hope I covered myself there.. I'm not trying to be a smart a$$..It is a lot harder talking about something without scientific data to back it up..LOL..Trust me I'm just trying to help.. But yes I understand your point..

Sorry... I was talking about. Sun light vs Indoor HID hps

[scott9116]

I can understand that but if you are claiming that it will double or triple THC content with no tests you are just spreading unsubstantiated misinformation about your beloved technique. Let's not become hype machines, be real here. Say what it actually does from your perspective. Say, it seems to increase resin production and from smoking it would seem that much more THC is produced...etc. In your opinion, it could double or triple THC content. I say, no way. Maybe it bumps it a few percent or grows more of the psychoactive components in ratios that make the high seems stronger etc.

But these are all just opinions until someone comes up with some lab tests.

Can we borrow your mass spectrometer/gas chromatograph?

[Dogznova]

Scott ......Remember PAD lighting 660nm/730nm cycles every half hour AFTER your blue/660nm lights would be on for 6 to 4 hours... Your blue/660 source's (on time) depends on what type of flowering cycle you want.. 12/12, 11/13 or 10/14.. So to ensure an even spread I would think you might want the table rotating every 15 mins...Just my thoughts..:thumbsup: