THE TRUTH OF DOC MARIJUANA SEMINAR

[palerider7777]

Hey all, DocMMJ wanted me to convey something to all of you. I quote" I'd like to offer my sincere apologies to everyone for getting a little PO'd when thought I was beinging attacked a bit. I should have risen above it. It had been a stressful couple weeks having had the clone queen actually die in my arms the day before the posting due to a siezure. I hope senor, you heard enough from others to realize I have been fighting the good fight for many years. As far as, the seminar being a little scattered, you're right. I did it as a favor and was basicaly awake for two weeks putting it together. My cut? $250 because someone brought a money order with my name on it. The rest went to help others. It is unfortunate I won't be here (on cannabis.com)to help those who could use my experience. Although I do think this style is the best way for many reasons it is by no means the only way I have grown. Senor, thank you for your honesty. And my point about organics was simply this, just because it's not organic doesn't make it bad, many product that are man made are just fine. There is certainly a need for organic growers, just don't like "Hype Words" that can be misleading.

Again my appologize. Dana

most nutes run a fine line between organic and non organic.you know what deems most nutes non organic??? it has alil bit more carbon elements to it thats it.it's all organic in most ways.

[lampost]

well true aero is done with foggers in the chamber and it works very well it keep the roots at there max in way of uptake of nutes/oxygen. then there the misters that spray nutes onto your root system at all times.again max uptake of all/most elements.hydro is more keeping your roots submersed in your nutes at all times or flood and drain.then u have nft nute film technique.

the goal with all this unlike soil is to get as much oxygen to the root system as possible.with soil you try to do this with things like perlite and such but u can only do so much in soil.

thanks. i see where you could huge yields doing that because your plant is constantly feeding. so the foggers fill the root chamber with mist... are these on timers so the roots are able to get oxygen occasionally too?

[palerider7777]

thanks. i see where you could huge yields doing that because your plant is constantly feeding. so the foggers fill the root chamber with mist... are these on timers so the roots are able to get oxygen occasionally too?

no constant feed they get tons of oxygen as it's in mist form oxygen is mixed in at a great rate.in hydroponics where the roots stay submersed thats where you need air stones to keep the air pumping into the roots at all times.like diving with air tanks we can stay under water for long times as we have oxygen to keep us alive pretty much the same with the roots. now with ebb and flow"flood/drain" this would be the case having the timer as there is no air supplied to the roots when the tray is full.so they drain the table to allow the roots to breathe.

ps now true aero with the foggers can be a bit pricey those fogger units are'nt cheap.thats why i use misters.i do a aero"misters"dwc combo.

[justinsane33]

hydro gives me headaches if i smoke it all day. bout the only reason i prefer soil.

[FarmerSteve]

Hey all, DocMMJ wanted me to convey something to all of you. I quote" I'd like to offer my sincere apologies to everyone for getting a little PO'd when thought I was beinging attacked a bit. I should have risen above it. It had been a stressful couple weeks having had the clone queen actually die in my arms the day before the posting due to a siezure. I hope senor, you heard enough from others to realize I have been fighting the good fight for many years. As far as, the seminar being a little scattered, you're right. I did it as a favor and was basicaly awake for two weeks putting it together. My cut? $250 because someone brought a money order with my name on it. The rest went to help others. It is unfortunate I won't be here (on cannabis.com)to help those who could use my experience. Although I do think this style is the best way for many reasons it is by no means the only way I have grown. Senor, thank you for your honesty. And my point about organics was simply this, just because it's not organic doesn't make it bad, many product that are man made are just fine. There is certainly a need for organic growers, just don't like "Hype Words" that can be misleading.

Again my appologize. Dana

Wow, this is weird. I think I said something to Doc in another thread, just kinda joking with him about his family tree and what it means. And then I see in this thread that he's banned and made threats against people. I hope I wasn't involved in that. I was in no way attacking the man, just asking a question.

Either way CloneQueen, I respect you both for what you have done for MMJ and Colorado as a whole. It's real easy for people to jump on the bandwagon now that it's legal, or at least to be more colorful about their support. I know I am. Speaking as the child of a person who spent 7 of their first 17 years of adulthood in prison for nothing but marijuana charges, I understand to some degree how hard it was, and you two both have all my respect and admiration. Thank you for your work.

I bet Doc knows a LOT. That's a lot of years, and I'm sure he knows the deal. I was just surprised how combative he was, and I was trying to lighten the subject. Please extend my apologies if he was offended.

Thanks for the report Senor!

[palerider7777]

hydro gives me headaches if i smoke it all day. bout the only reason i prefer soil.

lmao,i think u need to read up more on it then cause the word "hydro" is just the growing proccess.you can still be 100% organic in hydro it just takes extra time and care as organic nutes for hydroponics has no ph buffers. so to say "hydro"gives u headaches can be somewhat misleading.now if you was to have said non organic hydro gives me headaches then that would make sense.

ps you do know there is non organic soil grown meds too right??i can't blame you tho thats what happens with street talk and if you don't take it into your own hands to research it then most of the time one just ends up repeating what was told to them as to how/why things are what they are.

soil/hydroponics are just growing mediums thats it.you feed the medium it feeds the plant.

[Vancefish]

It had been a stressful couple weeks having had the clone queen actually die in my arms the day before the posting due to a siezure.

Are you saying Clonequeen died? As in actually dead? Because this post is FROM Clonequeen. Thus clonequeen is reporting Clonequeen died in WHO's arms?:wtf:

[senorx12562]

Are you saying Clonequeen died? As in actually dead? Because this post is FROM Clonequeen. Thus clonequeen is reporting Clonequeen died in WHO's arms?:wtf:

I'm assuming he means she had to be revived, as I met and talked with her on Saturday. And for all who don't know, she is Dana's wife.

[Vancefish]

Ah, ok.

Not trying to be cold. I just found that statement kind of shocking.

I had a co-worker who died recently of liver cancer. No one even knew he HAD cancer until the day before he died of it. He's now dead! As in NOT alive anymore.

I also had a friend with seizures, slip in the shower during a seizure, 3 years ago. She was home alone slipped, hit her head, and died. As in dead, as in NOT alive anymore.

If clonequeen died I feel very bad for Dana. I know how such a thing can throw a real big wrench into every aspect of your life. However if Clonequeen is still alive. This statement would really piss me off. Having a seizure and surviving, is not having a seizure and then being all out dead as the statement says.

So, I hope clonequeen is not dead.
If clonequeen had a seizure and survived. Sorry to hear that too.

[clonequeen]

Ah, ok.

Not trying to be cold. I just found that statement kind of shocking.

I had a co-worker who died recently of liver cancer. No one even knew he HAD cancer until the day before he died of it. He's now dead! As in NOT alive anymore.

I also had a friend with seizures, slip in the shower during a seizure, 3 years ago. She was home alone slipped, hit her head, and died. As in dead, as in NOT alive anymore.

If clonequeen died I feel very bad for Dana. I know how such a thing can throw a real big wrench into every aspect of your life. However if Clonequeen is still alive. This statement would really piss me off. Having a seizure and surviving, is not having a seizure and then being all out dead as the statement says.

So, I hope clonequeen is not dead.
If clonequeen had a seizure and survived. Sorry to hear that too.

Clone Queen here, no, I am still lucky enough to be alive. Senorx was right with reviving. In the past three months I have had three siezures where I stopped breathing and had to be resusitated. The stress he speaks of, has to do with insurance. I have a pre-existing condition, and therefore no insurance...so, the hospital's have the policy of waiting until I flatline to come and get me. It is stressful when you can't take care of the infinite testing procedures you need to do to determine what is wrong, because I basically need a babysitter all the time now while we sort it out.

I understand that it is truely devistating to lose someone, especially as they were alone, in that I am fortunate, but either way, siezures of this kind are absolutly exhausting for all involved. I just lost my father too, and am only 30 years old, so I understand what it's like to watch someone go young. Sometimes it just seems like tragedy hammers your ass. We are coming out of it now. What does not kill you makes you stronger.