ok ok, ive been to both places and had access to their top notch medi bud and it wasnt top notch medi bud !! It sucked for the price and the drive, like ive said earlier most of use can and will find better shit off the street or in private grow ops. I dont want to dime out a NM producer/grower but there is one out west by gallup thats putting out medi grade bud and they grew it themselves with ocean forest, thats all im saying on whos got the worst, you all need to be your own judges...im growing my own with or without the damn card...peace