I need someone's help with my plant!

[Maxor420]

My plant is now looking a bit better after a couple days of no watering. Surprisingly it still has not used up the water in it's 1 gallon pot, it's still from a flush I did on January 5th.

The plant is a female for sure, I have just finished sexing her. Now for ANOTHER stressful change back to vegging. I am not worried about the increase in time it takes to do it this way, however I am just hoping that my plant survives.

I also got a clone from my buddy. I forget the strain name right now, however he says he charges over $100 for the clones, and it's pretty potent, I've smoked it. I hope that survives, since it's the reason I switched back to 24 hours light. As well, I don't plan on over watering this new one.... I've learned so much so quickly...LoL!

[Faddenator]

Glad to see things are going well! Apparently its just you and me on this one haha. You should get some pics up if you can :thumbsup:

[Maxor420]

Hello to all who are following!

I have an update on my situation:

1) Plant has resumed growth, slowly picking up speed.
2) It is spring green, not forest green.
3) Starting to see nutrient deficiencies on the leaves. The skin between the veins are turning lighter green/yellow, yet the veins remain green on the leaves. Discoloration starts at the leaf base, not the leaf tip.
4) Gave it 1 cup, 50% strength, 450ppm, 6.8PH, nutrient solution today
(Been 9 days since my flush..... is it normal for it to take that long?)

Maintenance: I snipped off the small leaves at the bottom of the new growing tips. They were small, and not growing, so I assumed they get very little light. I've heard that this can actually put stress on the plant, and it is better to remove foliage that will struggle, then to have it struggle. It also helps air flow down below.

Here are some new pictures!
(And that purple light is my grow space.... very happy with LED!)
(To view FULL size, click the image again once it loads after your first click on it)

[Faddenator]

3) Starting to see nutrient deficiencies on the leaves. The skin between the veins are turning lighter green/yellow, yet the veins remain green on the leaves. Discoloration starts at the leaf base, not the leaf tip.
4) Gave it 1 cup, 50% strength, 450ppm, 6.8PH, nutrient solution today
(Been 9 days since my flush..... is it normal for it to take that long?)

These are my two concerns-
It's good that you fed it, especially if things are yellowing. Keep going with the 50% solution.
Now for the real concern: does 9 days mean it been that long since you've watered? or just until you've fed it?

The reason I ask is 9 days is a long time for water to be sitting in your soil, it should dry up in a few days. any longer puts your roots at risk. so... hopefully im reading this wrong haha. If not, check on your drainage- you may need to add more perlite and re-transplant.

[Maxor420]

Nope, it took 9 days to evaporate off a FULLY saturated 4L pail of soil. I will cut some larger holes into the bottom of the pail.

I guess something else to keep in mind is that the pail was covered with foil for the better part of those 9 days, and when it was removed, had condensed water on the bottom side.

I have decided the added reflected light isn't of greater benefit than properly draining soil. We will have to see how this turn out in the next couple days.

What I can say RIGHT NOW is that the leaves have gone back into a drooping state, however it's only to the extent that you would consider it in a "Resting" phase. Lower leaves are more perky, however some are more droopy too!

All in all, it's growing again! What I want to attempt to do is gather some run off, and check the PH..... maybe the PPM would be smart as well. (Remember, gotta treck to buddies house to get stuff tested):rastasmoke:

[Faddenator]

I would say removing the foil over the soil is a good idea. I'll admit that when I first saw that I thought it was genius haha, but I overlooked the same thing you did... the evaporation.

Im still worried about the drainage though. is your soil more composty/soily, or more woodchippy? have you added perlite at all? I personally use miracle gro potting mix... it works really well for me. but even with a woody soil like that, i still added about 25% perlite. If you haven't added any perlite, I'd highly recommend it. I'm willing to bet the current droopiness is from the most recent watering. Every time I water my plants droop for about 12 hours or so. I don't even know if this is common, but it doesnt seem to be a problem.

[Maxor420]

Wow... simply wow. You'll see tomorrow what I mean in the pictures....


I gave it half strength nutrients earlier today (still before midnight, I can say that....) and I just checked on her.... I would say there is a total growth of about 1\2".


I have a theory, let me know what you think about it:

1) Nutrients are always good... especially when you hit the mark as far as what they seem to have wanted, and nothing more.
2) I KNOW the nutrient solution was at 6.8PH, and if my soil was slightly higher in PH, that could have potentially lowered it into a more acceptable level, even if only by .1PH (Meaning if I was out in left field at 8PH or something)

Now I just have to watch her grow up.... then :rastasmoke:

OH!! one more thing, what is your opinion on cutting the tops? Should it be done, or not. If I do, are the top colas going to be as large, or will there just be four slightly smaller ones?

As far as my soil, it's "Presidents choice supreme potting soil" or some other word than supreme. I have no clue what it all has, however it's pretty spongy when it's wet. When it's dry, it kind of crumbles easily, and there is about a 10% mixture of perlite already in there from the factory. I don't have money right now to purchase perlite to add, however I will take that into consideration when I have more expendable cash that could be put to use in this area. (There are strange pale orange balls that seem to hold moisture, however when I crush them, they are hollow, and usually contain very small amounts of water, enough to wet my finger tip slightly... maybe it's a bug egg from inferior processing or something, however it's way to clean on the inside for it to be that I would think. That and they are perfectly sealed and about 6mm in diameter)

[Maxor420]

Well today I finished re-organizing my grow area to better accommodate my plants. I am growing tomatoes too!

I won't be posting pictures today, however it seems I am still lacking nutrients, however it seems more prevalent at the top growth. It is like the center oval section of the leaf fingers is turning yellow, yet the beginning, and tips are good and green. The veins are green as well.... I will take pictures tomorrow, it will be very noticeable by then.

Have a good one faddenator:rastasmoke:

[Faddenator]

I have a theory, let me know what you think about it:

1) Nutrients are always good... especially when you hit the mark as far as what they seem to have wanted, and nothing more.
2) I KNOW the nutrient solution was at 6.8PH, and if my soil was slightly higher in PH, that could have potentially lowered it into a more acceptable level, even if only by .1PH (Meaning if I was out in left field at 8PH or something)

Sounds like a good theory to me. but do you really think your soils ph is that high??? If so, you might want to get some ph down (or something around the house to lower ph, chances are you have something around) because putting 6.8ph solution into 8ph soil will still be a bit too basic. 6.8ph is actually the cap for growing in soil, so you don't want your ph any higher. If your plant is doing ok, however, I would guess your soil ph is closer to neutral. To be sure, check your runoff ph.

OH!! one more thing, what is your opinion on cutting the tops? Should it be done, or not. If I do, are the top colas going to be as large, or will there just be four slightly smaller ones?

I don't know much about trimming, sorry. Personally, Im not trimming anything. Hopefully someone else will chime in and help you with that, if you choose to do it.

There are strange pale orange balls that seem to hold moisture, however when I crush them, they are hollow, and usually contain very small amounts of water, enough to wet my finger tip slightly... maybe it's a bug egg from inferior processing or something, however it's way to clean on the inside for it to be that I would think. That and they are perfectly sealed and about 6mm in diameter)

I'm almost positive those are water soluble balls filled with generic plant food. probably has a shitty N-P-K ratio for weed, especially since it's presidents choice. I would definitely disregard them, treat them as if they aren't there. I've seen those little balls at nurseries as well... I think they use them exclusively because if there are enough in the pot, they should feed the plant automatically. anyone know for sure???

I think thats all i got for now. :jointsmile:

[Maxor420]

Thanks for the reply.

Well if anyone who is reading this knows about topping a plant, to promote the last node to become your main top(s) please let me know what you know.

I have downloaded every movie I can on cannabis, however those are just each persons personal opinion. There were actually very few things that they all had in common with each other. The basics like light, water, and growing medium were there, however not much else. They had a million tips, and each had it's own bit of wisdom to contribute to my knowledge base, however nothing like what I can get easily here.

Maybe I should check my(bookmarked) "sickness" thread to see if I can match a picture to my plant.