you are right on the lights. my bad i was using my conversion watts instead of my actual watts but my box has about 4,000 lumens per sq. ft of grow space. And yes I am using the dull side of the foil. I understand that my grow situation isn't the best but this is all being done on a budget and I'm basically just saying that it doesn't take a crap load of cfl's or a special mh or hps light to have healthy small and decent yielding plants. I will prob. add one or 2 150w equiv warm white bulbs but other then that all seems well and until I run into problems I'm happy with the small space I am using to grow. I have lots of pics and will do a full grow log once I'm done. for security reasons I don't want to start my log while I'm still actively growing my flowers. I just read a lot and incorporate the things that other people add to similar grows like mine. Thank you for the input though and I don't mean to botch your log so I will stop posting all this info about my grow. keep up the good work though.