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    #81
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    2.25 sq ft cardboard cab

    cab is in the back of a garage wit a big piece of cardboard in front of it and a painters tarp over it........the only light leaking into the garage is the HPS street light across the street..........cab is def. pitch black inside.



    gonna do some more LST today.......


    peace

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    #82
    Senior Member

    2.25 sq ft cardboard cab

    Pitch black, is it necessary? In the wild, they have the moon, the stars, some weirdos with torchlights...

    They look a bit droopy, you may want to wait a bit more between waterings.

    :thumbsup:

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    #83
    Senior Member

    2.25 sq ft cardboard cab

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    #84
    Senior Member

    2.25 sq ft cardboard cab

    I figure I'll stick with the LST for now..thanks for all the options fellas...

    It's cold out here.ambient runs 70F at lowest but the box has the fan and she's down around 66F

    Thought I might try and get the 300 watt socket cord and 4 46 watters??

    It'll prepare the plants for the 65W 2700k's


    .....got temps to spare.....


    Buffalo:rastasmoke:


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    #85
    Senior Member

    2.25 sq ft cardboard cab

    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyBone
    Pitch black, is it necessary? In the wild, they have the moon, the stars, some weirdos with torchlights...

    They look a bit droopy, you may want to wait a bit more between waterings.

    :thumbsup:
    Well, I guess maybe your right, but Im not sure the light from the moon even has anykinda light that the plant would use/recognize???? thats a good questions. Thinking about it tho, the light would ahve to travel from the sun? or the earth? to the moon then bounce off and come back? Hmm? All I knw, is the plant wants 12/12. If you fuck that up for 1minute- however long your plant may go into shock. Its been having 12/12 for how long no light leakage, then randomly theres lights, the plant may think somethings wrong and hermmie. Hermies are made when the plant thinks it may not be pollinated, in its last attempt to reporduce it hermies to pollinate itself and keep it alive for the next yeat. Amazing eh. So if we can simulate the most perfect environment the plant will just swell and swell hoping to get justa grain of pollen.

    Cannabis plants are so smart. Im amazed at how they know when to flower just by how much nighttime they get.

    Id think tho, if you had a light leak the whole time threw your grow, it may adjust to it, but i still think it would be like, WTF Im supposed to be lights out, im supposed to be matbolizing my sugars, wtf, now Im photosynthisizing WTF, then lights go completely out, ok back to sugars, lights on photo. YOur plants gonna wanna kill you. Hence the hermmie.

    ANYWAYS. These things are more important for indoor growers as usually we dont want seeds and all that shit. This was fun. Ive always read to be light proof.

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    #86
    Senior Member

    2.25 sq ft cardboard cab

    Quote Originally Posted by bigtopsfinn
    Hiya Buffalo :jointsmile:

    Sounds good, you still have some options though.

    I know what you're saying about wasting time with males and also the screen. It'll be a while before you see preflowers though. It can take 4-8 weeks of veg, maybe even longer with CFL's. I would start Scrogin somewhere in this time frame, preflowers or not.

    One option is to take clones as soon as the plants are ready to give them. Label the clones and flower the mother plants you have now. Once you find out their gender you can discard the male clones and mother.

    With the screen it's kinda up to you. You can accomplish nearly the same thing with a lot of LST until you sex them, but eventually you'll want to get the screen in to try and fill it.


    One thing with Scrog is that it's easier to do when you know how much the plants stretch in flower. Yours look very indica dominant, so I'd try to fill in the screen at least 70% before switching the lights.

    Something else to keep in mind for Scrog, you can just cut the screen to fit your cab and then cut it in half, so each plant has their own screen. In case you do get a male, it will be an easy fix and no worries about pollinating the other when you're ripping him out of the screen. It also makes it much easier to flush and re-pot if needed, and turn them from time to time.

    But yeah, more lights! :thumbsup:
    definitely right about veggin longer, as u can see from the pics I have a wayz to go if i'm gonna have a wall to wall canopy....I'm gonna scrog but I'll LST till they're ready...I'd say about 6 weeks and I should have the screens ready to go.......still gotta extend the cab.......

    what do u guys think about the Fimming at this point??...the more tops the better for the scrog??


    peace

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    #87
    Senior Member

    2.25 sq ft cardboard cab

    Quote Originally Posted by EnhAnceD
    Well, I guess maybe your right, but Im not sure the light from the moon even has anykinda light that the plant would use/recognize???? thats a good questions. Thinking about it tho, the light would ahve to travel from the sun? or the earth? to the moon then bounce off and come back? Hmm? All I knw, is the plant wants 12/12. If you fuck that up for 1minute- however long your plant may go into shock. Its been having 12/12 for how long no light leakage, then randomly theres lights, the plant may think somethings wrong and hermmie. Hermies are made when the plant thinks it may not be pollinated, in its last attempt to reporduce it hermies to pollinate itself and keep it alive for the next yeat. Amazing eh. So if we can simulate the most perfect environment the plant will just swell and swell hoping to get justa grain of pollen.

    Cannabis plants are so smart. Im amazed at how they know when to flower just by how much nighttime they get.

    Id think tho, if you had a light leak the whole time threw your grow, it may adjust to it, but i still think it would be like, WTF Im supposed to be lights out, im supposed to be matbolizing my sugars, wtf, now Im photosynthisizing WTF, then lights go completely out, ok back to sugars, lights on photo. YOur plants gonna wanna kill you. Hence the hermmie.

    ANYWAYS. These things are more important for indoor growers as usually we dont want seeds and all that shit. This was fun. Ive always read to be light proof.
    Sometime I forget to close the closet door at 10pm, shuts it at like 10h30, even 11...maybe that's why there are like 1-2 bananas showing on some buds. Or the fact that the bean was from a hermi...I don't know

    :wtf::thumbsup:

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    #88
    Senior Member

    2.25 sq ft cardboard cab

    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyBone
    Sometime I forget to close the closet door at 10pm, shuts it at like 10h30, even 11...maybe that's why there are like 1-2 bananas showing on some buds. Or the fact that the bean was from a hermi...I don't know

    :wtf::thumbsup:
    Yup. Its most likely both. Plants that went hermmie and spilled its own pollin on the buds have a higher chance of hermin. With light leaks, the plant will stress which will cause the already hightened chance of hermmie, due to self pollination, to occur, providing ur seed was from a self herm.

    Lets say tho, you hade two fem plants. One hermmies, the other doesnt, or youve just saved some pollen from a great strain that hermmied on you. If you apply pollen from an previous hermmie to a plant that hasnt hermmed you will get great Fem Seeds. All plants have the genetics to cause a hermmie no matter what, enough stress or even over maturing will make it herm, amongst almost anything esle that will stress the plant. My first grow I had to change my lighting up 2 hours b.c of schedule change and I know she hermmied somwhere due to that. When I cropped my plant I had very very small seeds that were no where near mature. Still great smoke, but you gotta be carefull b.c once it hermies you have such small time to catch it and cut it off and if it spreads it pollen pretty much plants slow down their bud production once they get pollinated as they have completed their lifes purpose.....aside getting smoked ahhaha.

    And I go on and on my friendssssss, and Ill go on and on aginnnn. SOme ppl may start sayin wow enhanced has togot alot to say, And Ill agree with out delay that this is starting to sound gay. hahahahhahaha. OK im done. lol. I hope you get my song dub. lol.:rastasmoke:

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    #89
    Senior Member

    2.25 sq ft cardboard cab

    Quote Originally Posted by EnhAnceD
    Yup. Its most likely both. Plants that went hermmie and spilled its own pollin on the buds have a higher chance of hermin. With light leaks, the plant will stress which will cause the already hightened chance of hermmie, due to self pollination, to occur, providing ur seed was from a self herm.

    Lets say tho, you hade two fem plants. One hermmies, the other doesnt, or youve just saved some pollen from a great strain that hermmied on you. If you apply pollen from an previous hermmie to a plant that hasnt hermmed you will get great Fem Seeds. All plants have the genetics to cause a hermmie no matter what, enough stress or even over maturing will make it herm, amongst almost anything esle that will stress the plant. My first grow I had to change my lighting up 2 hours b.c of schedule change and I know she hermmied somwhere due to that. When I cropped my plant I had very very small seeds that were no where near mature. Still great smoke, but you gotta be carefull b.c once it hermies you have such small time to catch it and cut it off and if it spreads it pollen pretty much plants slow down their bud production once they get pollinated as they have completed their lifes purpose.....aside getting smoked ahhaha.

    And I go on and on my friendssssss, and Ill go on and on aginnnn. SOme ppl may start sayin wow enhanced has togot alot to say, And Ill agree with out delay that this is starting to sound gay. hahahahhahaha. OK im done. lol. I hope you get my song dub. lol.:rastasmoke:
    The seed is from a hermi that pollinated on a female.

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    #90
    Senior Member

    2.25 sq ft cardboard cab

    Got quite a bit of work to do on the cab...extension, painting,lighting, new socket cord......with the exta veg time planned, I don't feel as rushed.....


    lights are currently 18/6

    fan runs 24/7

    cab temp 66F

    ambient 73


    peace:jointsmile:

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