I'm FUCT, need help

[redtails]

Wow, sorry to ever say anything oh master of the piss test.

If killing the spread of misinformation is considered "closed-minded" then I'll be happy to plea guilty as charged.

Theres nothing new about touting the efficacy (or lack thereof) of magic elixirs - this forum is filled with them. You have not created a new wrinkle here -try the Search feature and see it for yourself.

If stating FACTS from personal experience is spreading misinformation, then I'm sorry. I've used 3 different products on 3 seperate occassions and NONE have ever failed me. I have one friend who failed the army intake urine analysis on one product, but got his money reimbursed with an extra 10% after mailing in his test results and proof of purchase...Then went on to pass his next test on the same product, while actually following directions this time. That's not hearsay from him, I was there taking the tests as well.

Overdiluting will send up the red flags. If you done any research and put such research to practice, you would discover that dilution is a balancing act. Theres countless posts of others who pulled off a successful dilute without going overboard and sending up the red flags.

If it's such a "balancing act" then why are you recommending it? Why not just say use synthetic or someone else's urine?

Regardless, I'm done with this forum so you can stop picking my posts apart in scrutiny because you're the only one that can be right. Maybe if I had a scientific study about my results you'd believe them, but you would probably still be "closed-minded"...

Begin challenging your own assumptions. Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in awhile, or the light won't come in. - Alan Alda

[Burnt Toast]

If stating FACTS from personal experience is spreading misinformation, then I'm sorry. I've used 3 different products on 3 seperate occassions and NONE have ever failed me. I have one friend who failed the army intake urine analysis on one product, but got his money reimbursed with an extra 10% after mailing in his test results and proof of purchase...Then went on to pass his next test on the same product, while actually following directions this time. That's not hearsay from him, I was there taking the tests as well.

Begin challenging your own assumptions. Your assumptions are your windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in awhile, or the light won't come in. - Alan Alda

Oh are we now into making unoriginal quotes from others? Well heres my entry:

"Multiple pieces of anecdotal evidence do not equal scientific fact." - Rhizome

If everything were to be based on personal experience, it would be a pretty sad existence.

If it's such a "balancing act" then why are you recommending it?

Its apparent that you have no clue what I mean when I say that dilution is a balancing act, so let me put it in a way that is more understanding: The purpose of diluting is to drink only enough fluids to "thin out" the THCA concentration just enough for the sample to register below the cutoff thresholds of the drug screen.

Why not just say use synthetic or someone else's urine?

If you searched any of my past posts, you'll discover that I do recommend subbing - if the conditions warrant it. In fact, I have recommended subbing more times than I had recommended diluting, and my past posts have all beared this out.

[Dutch Pimp]

If ...Burnt Toast said it!...you can take that info to the bank...:thumbsup:

[Deige]

I agree.. Its nothing personal Redtails, this is just the way we do things here in the drug testing forum. We never recommend detox drinks because they do the same as dilution at a much higher cost. As far as their guarantee... Well,

"If you want me to take a crap in a box and mark it guarantee I will, believe me Ive got time". - Tommy Callahan

I'll go with N2's dilution method any day, it's reliable and I guarantee it.:thumbsup:

[redtails]

Tell me, what would you call "scientific fact" then? No I didn't log my results or pay 100's of dollars having my urine independently tested multiple times, but where I'm at it's still a fact that I passed the tests using only the drinks mere days after smoking 1/4oz or more. Just plain waiting it out after quitting took me 45 days to get clean, these drinks saved me from going to jail when I didn't have the willpower to quit smoking.

And apparently you didn't understand me either, but I'm not going to point it out to you. I'll refrain from trying to help here, I obviously don't have as much experience trying to defraud the system as some on here. I'll just say if you want to pass a test, the best & most reliable way is to STOP USING and leave it at that...

[Burnt Toast]

where I'm at it's still a fact that I passed the tests using only the drinks mere days after smoking 1/4oz or more.

these drinks saved me from going to jail when I didn't have the willpower to quit smoking.

You may have passed using the potions, but it wasnt because they "stopped your body from burning fat" nonsense. Like I said, thats just a sales pitch based on misinformation brought on by the potion peddlers, and youve fell for it like a five year old kid - hook, line, and sinker.
It clearly hasnt occurred to you that when you are ingesting any liquids, you are effectively diluting the THCA concentration thats present in the bladder. So why keep feeding the scam artists by spending huge sums of money on an overpriced bottle of vitamin water when you can accomplish the same thing for $$$ less by following N2's Dilution sticky thread?

And apparently you didn't understand me either, but I'm not going to point it out to you.

Probably because you have nothing to point out.

I'll refrain from trying to help here

Youve already stated in post #12 that you were "through with this forum". Obviously that turned out to be a lie.

I obviously don't have as much experience trying to defraud the system as some on here.

It shows.

[Burnt Toast]

People have failed with dilution, people I know personally, that's why I went with the Vale drink

If what youre saying is indeed true, then those "people that you know personally" wouldve failed that same test that same day using the Vale drink as well.

[redtails]

So much anger and hate spewing from this guy.

...I'm not even bashing you man, yet you keep on the defensive. Chill, smoke a bit, then come back with a fresh perspective and LOOK at what you're doing. If your "Flaming will get you banned buddy" statement to me in karma is true (which I've still gone up almost 100pts since you dissaproved of my post yesterday: for my GOOD posts), then read what's coming from your keyboard and change your ways before you end up gone...Put that rage into a more positive venue & try to help instead of just dissecting my posts. ANYONE can find errors in any posts if they look at it in scrutiny: want me to correct your grammar and punctuation for you?

I know you have some sort of hatred for the detox drinks, maybe you've had bad experiences, but you can't totally dismiss them if they obviously work for a lot of people. Maybe my statement about the fat burning was in error, I'm sorry. I was just going from what I remembered on one of the bottles. I honestly don't think spending the $20-50 on these wasn't worth it to pass the tests. N2's dilution method wasn't around on the net when I took the tests, I'm glad it is now so others don't have to resort to "snake oil" (hate the term BTW, I'm a lifelong herpetophile so it just sounds so wrong) like myself and thousands of other have.

Now, I think we can all get along right? I came back just to see what was up, & curiosity got the better of me. I'm sorry my will wasn't as strong as I had hoped, but at least I have a better attitude today about it :thumbsup:

[thehotcompost]

Hello everyone.

Here is my scenario:

Iâ??m 28, I weigh in at 150 and Iâ??m 5â?? 7â?�. I donâ??t exercise much but Iâ??m not completely out of shape. I have been smoking almost daily for the past 2 years or so. The weed I have been smoking is not very potent. I am also a heavy drinker. I drink a lot of water, coffee, and at least a 6 pack of beer daily, I always have a glass of fluid on hand. I received a job offer but I need to take a urine test, which Iâ??m pretty sure wonâ??t be supervised. I can probably hold off on the drug test for 5-7 days.

If anyone can give me some advice, I would appreciate it greatly.

Also, I know that THC is stored in fat cells, so has anyone ever tried fasting? Here is something I read about fasting: â??Fasting is actually an efficient way of cleansing your system. If you took three days off and allowed your body to naturally regenerate itself through the use of vegetable juices and water, you can essentially clear your system of most accumulative toxins. This is an effective way to do a body cleanse without the expense of expensive colonic irrigation or colon cleansers. Three days is sufficient to let the body do what it does naturally.â?�

Thanks in advance.

Whe i went to Prison you have 28 days to clean your system out,smoking cannibis daily and reguarly you need at least 3 weeks there are many ways around this you come to find.In Jail you are Scrutinized whilst giving a urine test,i have a sure fire way for you to beat the test,simple really if you havent had any serious ways to do this let me know take care

[redtails]

If what youre saying is indeed true, then those "people that you know personally" wouldve failed that same test that same day using the Vale drink as well.

Not necessarily, like you said yourself, dilution is "a balancing act" and you have to drink "only enough" water to dilute the urine to "just enough" concentration, so there's a lot more room for error unless you have instructions like in the link you provided or on the label of the drink...See, I do pay attention, & already understood it; that's what I meant about you not understanding me btw, but now it's spelled out.