The economics of MMJ?

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I believe it, thats 3 lbs per 1kW which I have also done more than once. The veg time is really short, but I think I could come close in soil with some strains like ISS, Agent Orange, and other super fast growing sativa hybrids. The AO I mentioned gets about 10x bigger when we hit 12/12, I can't believe how much they had to be trimmed down after flowering. Growing 1 plant per light would be easy with a strain like that... I agree that DWC maximizes nute uptake in the roots, but large volumes of dirt can accomplish similar yields and is cheap and easy, just needs more veg time.

i agree,and yes ao is a great strain i have 2 pks along with many other subcool strains.he gifted me the pks of ao and spacequeen acouple years ago.

btw the strain doubles was working with there i believe was a g13 cross.

[ThaiBuddhaMan]

not when u mix it with dwc like i do.it's a win win cause basicly you have 2 systems running at the same time so it's like a fail safe. cause if the aero goes down you still have the airstones going and if the air pump stops you have the aero still running.it's great for those times when you would have lost a crop due to a pump clogging or going bad...

not to mention the added oxygen and growth you get from it..

You're absolutely right. I have a hybrid aero/rdwc system set-up at one of my patient's places for his plants. The guy used to be a mechanical engineer before he came down with cancer. We have been getting nice yields but still need to dial-in: lighting, CO2, temp and get a rez chiller. A couple more runs, and he should be ready to take things over on his own, hopefully his health will hold up. But you have to admit for someone just starting out, trying to figure things out on their own - aero isn't the easiest way to begin. It's expensive & unless you have experience - difficult to set-up. The only reason we went with the system we put together was because he had already started trying to put together a dwc system so he already had a lot of equipment. He's actually happy with the yield but it's become a goal now to try and see just how hard we can push the line. I missed picking up some of DoubleD's seeds but hopefully will get some by end of summer.

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You're absolutely right. I have a hybrid aero/rdwc system set-up at one of my patient's places for his plants. The guy used to be a mechanical engineer before he came down with cancer. We have been getting nice yields but still need to dial-in: lighting, CO2, temp and get a rez chiller. A couple more runs, and he should be ready to take things over on his own, hopefully his health will hold up. But you have to admit for someone just starting out, trying to figure things out on their own - aero isn't the easiest way to begin. It's expensive & unless you have experience - difficult to set-up. The only reason we went with the system we put together was because he had already started trying to put together a dwc system so he already had a lot of equipment. He's actually happy with the yield but it's become a goal now to try and see just how hard we can push the line. I missed picking up some of DoubleD's seeds but hopefully will get some by end of summer.

well you might not believe it but i had never grown anything at all ever.then i was hurt and wanted a natrual way to deal with pain so i read up for 2 nites and built my first system.dwc/aero i built a manifold to fit down in each rez hooked to the water pump then 2 air stones per rez.first grow was crystal 2 plants yeilded 30 oz's dry.the way i started out growing was fimming and bending over my tops.but thats how i am i learn very very fast the basics then i add onto it to improve what im doing.im not the type of person to sit and wait and go along with what someone else is doing.not that that is wrong just diffrent people work things out diffrent ways.some are slow starters some are not.

that was without co2 btw.never done co2 but want to when i can someday.

[ThaiBuddhaMan]

...first grow was crystal 2 plants yeilded 30 oz's dry....

That's a great first run! Congrats! And good job doing your homework first! Too many jump in thinking - It's a weed, how hard can it be? Well it's not really hard but if you want some decent yield, it does take a bit of planning & work.

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That's a great first run! Congrats! And good job doing your homework first! Too many jump in thinking - It's a weed, how hard can it be? Well it's not really hard but if you want some decent yield, it does take a bit of planning & work.

that was 4 years ago tho lol i have moved up from there....atleast i think so lol seems like i left my home where i was doing great only to come to a legal state to get caught up in red tape trying to be"legal" and run above board....

[Dorje113]

that was without co2 btw.never done co2 but want to when i can someday.

I'm trying out a Plug n Grow IGS-220 Co2/Temp/RH controller with good success right now. I doubt I'd do Co2 without a controller after trying one, if the IGS-220 or similar units are too expensive I've seen Co2 controllers on ebay for under $300, same as the CAP ppm3 that retails for $589 it looks like. You could also rig a relay to turn off the co2 when the exhaust fan comes on to save co2. The 3 lbs/light I've gotten was with natural gas co2 generators, but also with constant venting so co2 levels never got close to ideal...

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I'm trying out a Plug n Grow IGS-220 Co2/Temp/RH controller with good success right now. I doubt I'd do Co2 without a controller after trying one, if the IGS-220 or similar units are too expensive I've seen Co2 controllers on ebay for under $300, same as the CAP ppm3 that retails for $589 it looks like. You could also rig a relay to turn off the co2 when the exhaust fan comes on to save co2. The 3 lbs/light I've gotten was with natural gas co2 generators, but also with constant venting so co2 levels never got close to ideal...

yea thats the problem,i have a tank and a cap reg but no controller.i hooked it up and after a day i said f this i'll wait till i can set it up right.so atleast i have the basics.that was 2 months ago so im hoping to use it soon...