Quote Originally Posted by sittingone
If it was an honest discussion you were looking for then you should have kept your thread less aggressive.
Good luck in your search for a better solution, as I know that they are out there.
Kinda reminds me of stepping on a yellowjackets' nest while fielding a fly ball as a kid. Talking about money gets a lot of stuff flying real fast, don't it?

Aggressive was not the intention - but I do come with a viewpoint, and felt it best to get it upfront. Yeah, it's a cynical, jaundiced viewpoint that most times skews populist. But c'mon guys, if I have to Kubler-Ross my very first, 40+ year-old, pothead utopian fantasy, bear with me. And thanks, sittingone, for the good wishes.

My first point - MMJ is now a marketplace item. In general: Sellers are going to seek max profit, customers are going to seek best deal. There are economies of scale that will favor bigger and quality issues that will favor smaller, growers. Smaller grower's prices will be higher. These are basic economics that will apply here, as elsewhere.

Second - I really believe this is early days, and the situation a year from now will be different, and so on. But that means what we do now matters to what the future looks like.

Third - these were not my numbers, if fact I question many of them. That's why I posted this to get some discussion going. Thanks for the stuff we did get, though.

Palerider - I agree with your points. And 31/8th is a better price than I get from my caregiver. But I'm not sure how typical you are. And a lot of patients have no idea how to find a caregiver.
So $1200 rent is too low; better number? Any commercial real estate folks out there who could give us a better idea?
As to ongoing biz expenses, the guy with the original numbers had a line item for that; do you disagree with his numbers?
$38,400 base for you, okay. And if you need employees for a large-scale grow, what's fair for them? Greenhouse work has long been woefully underpaid (been there, done that)

These are the kind of figures I'd hoped we could start groping toward.

I know yields are impossible to accurately quantify, too many variables - but there are people with experience in growing good quantities, their methods and yields are all over the Web in forum threads, grow diaries and journals.

I think discussions of costs and prices are going to emerge more and more as MJ moves into legality in small, slow steps. I'll bet you they're going to be part of the MMJ discussions at the state legislature this session; I want enough info so I can intelligently take part in the debate.

BTW - Delta9; I had a good strong impression of your operation from posts here. Your ad hominem first post to this really pissed me off, though, because you so obviously failed to RTFPost! and implied ignorance on my part with no basis in fact. Hope you conduct your business more professionally.