The economics of MMJ?

[redtails]

1/4 oz free a month and 5grams of bubble every other month free then i can go 200 an oz.

Sounds like a deal to me! Better than you would get on Rx meds, & way better than off the street unless you had an unbelievable hookup. Myself I wouldn't need more than an oz a month & that's probably including selling half to make most of the money back...

[palerider7777]

That's exactly it, it may be fairly cheap to grow yourself but do you want to invest the time in it not to mention the risks of getting caught? That's all factored into the final price along with many other things & like palerider said the clubs have to make their 50% to stay operating in the "green"...Same thing with anything really, it's cheaper to make/do something yourself if you have the resources & knowhow but most people would rather just go to a shop & have someone else pick it out for ya.

this is true+ like i said these shops get pushed around alot as u can see in the news all the time.and 1200 a month shop rent is really low it would have to be a dump of a place to rent at that price.depends on where your at in town too.1200 a month place is setup in a poorer area and is open to guess what more robbers.unless you spend thousands on setting up alarms and barred windows doors and such.then you have to by product then you have to pay for ad space to get your name out there last time i was in biz a half page ad in any good paper or phone book ran 1800 a month,better add your phone bill,lights,biz lic,ins,on and on we go.

it still urks me why when a good grower offers a deal like 1/4 or 1/2 oz a month free + 250 oz's or close to that.people act as if your ripping them off cuase it's"my plants"well if thats the way one wants to look at it then if it's "your" plants then "YOU" NEED TO PAY FOR ALL THE GEAR,ALL THE ELECTRIC EVERY THING,THEN PAY THE GROWER ON TOP OF THAT FOR THE SPACE"RENTAL SPACE" THEN PAY THE GROWER A SALERY FOR THE UP KEEP AND HIS SKILLS TO GROW IT TOP NOTCH.MY PAY SCALE IS 20 AN HOUR X 40+ HOURS A WEEK=800 A WK=3200 A MONTH=38400 A YEAR.GUESS THEM 250 TO 350 OZ'S ARE'NT LOOKING SO BAD ABOUT NOW HUH??? AND THATS AT THE LOW END OF THE SCALE.

[Delta9Caregivrs]

lol... this thread pissed off some hard working growers huh... guess we know ITS ALOT FUCKIN HARDER THAN WALLSTREET

[palerider7777]

lol... this thread pissed off some hard working growers huh... guess we know ITS ALOT FUCKIN HARDER THAN WALLSTREET

lmao naw im not pissed or anything like that it just boggles my mind how people think sometimes.i have never in my life done something where money was involved and it was easy...

[senorx12562]

lmao naw im not pissed or anything like that it just boggles my mind how people think sometimes.i have never in my life done something where money was involved and it was easy...

Given the topic of this thread, Palerider, I had a suspicion you were going to turn up. You are a little more relaxed than the last time you were discussing this topic, which I like to call "Give us socialized medicine"! Operative word being "give" of course.

[palerider7777]

Given the topic of this thread, Palerider, I had a suspicion you were going to turn up. You are a little more relaxed than the last time you were discussing this topic, which I like to call "Give us socialized medicine"! Operative word being "give" of course.

roflmao i was not mad or pissed last time either i guess it's just how i talk.but really not a mad person...

[sittingone]

I think part of the problem here is the thread starter went from admission of ignorance in this area of information he was seeking, to screaming and railing against those in the business very quickly.
If it was an honest discussion you were looking for then you should have kept your thread less aggressive. I happen to agree with some of what you said, but you went on to making assumptions based on incomplete numbers and thinking and coming off a bit too strong. It is a fact of life and capitalism that those in the know will always get a better deal, especially when it does not require a storefront and all that goes along with it to do the deal. Shade tree mechanics are cheaper for a reason. Different overhead. Instead of coming and being so negative about those making $, you should try to find people who are more interested in a collective or cooperative.

The final thing I will say is that you are also unrealistic about thinking too big. Ego will eventually get in the way as a group gets too big and it will be difficult to balance all the issues an operation such as this would require.

Good luck in your search for a better solution, as I know that they are out there.

[lampost]

it still urks me why when a good grower offers a deal like 1/4 or 1/2 oz a month free + 250 oz's or close to that.people act as if your ripping them off cuase it's"my plants"well if thats the way one wants to look at it then if it's "your" plants then "YOU" NEED TO PAY FOR ALL THE GEAR,ALL THE ELECTRIC EVERY THING,THEN PAY THE GROWER ON TOP OF THAT FOR THE SPACE"RENTAL SPACE" THEN PAY THE GROWER A SALERY FOR THE UP KEEP AND HIS SKILLS TO GROW IT TOP NOTCH.MY PAY SCALE IS 20 AN HOUR X 40+ HOURS A WEEK=800 A WK=3200 A MONTH=38400 A YEAR.GUESS THEM 250 TO 350 OZ'S ARE'NT LOOKING SO BAD ABOUT NOW HUH??? AND THATS AT THE LOW END OF THE SCALE.

How many oz's are you gonna get off of that guy's 3 plants? I've seen your grows and you obviously yield pretty well, so what are you looking at maybe 10-12 ozs? And of that 10-12 OZs you're going to give him a total of maybe 1/2 - 3/4 of an OZ from his plants?

Fuck yeah that's a ripoff!! C'mon dude, be a little less greedy and you'll probably pull in a few patients. You could give them an OZ per month (~2.5 ozs) and still have 75% of the product left to sell!!

So, let's say you grow this guy's 3 plants and harvest 12.5 OZs total. So you give the guy an OZ a month (which ends up being about 2.5 ozs until the next harvest is up). So you're left with 10 ozs to sell instead of 12.5. So, if you're selling for $250, you'd profit $2500 instead of $3125.

This way you'll appeal to more patients. If you can get 4 patients (AND I wouldn't think that would be a problem when you offer a free ounce per month) you'd make $10,000 every 2.5 months. That is exactly $1000/week (which equates to a taxed salary of about $75,000). That's not bad...

I would think the few more patients you could pull would make up for any loss in revenue. Even if you don't want to do the full oz, maybe try a free 1/2 OR OZ every 3rd month and 1/2s or 1/4s the other months. This might be more appealing to people....

Do you get much response on CL? Do people want to see your warez?

[palerider7777]

How many oz's are you gonna get off of that guy's 3 plants? I've seen your grows and you obviously yield pretty well, so what are you looking at maybe 10-12 ozs? And of that 10-12 OZs you're going to give him a total of maybe 1/2 - 3/4 of an OZ from his plants?

Fuck yeah that's a ripoff!! C'mon dude, be a little less greedy and you'll probably pull in a few patients. You could give them an OZ per month (~2.5 ozs) and still have 75% of the product left to sell!!

So, let's say you grow this guy's 3 plants and harvest 12.5 OZs total. So you give the guy an OZ a month (which ends up being about 2.5 ozs until the next harvest is up). So you're left with 10 ozs to sell instead of 12.5. So, if you're selling for $250, you'd profit $2500 instead of $3125.

This way you'll appeal to more patients. If you can get 4 patients (AND I wouldn't think that would be a problem when you offer a free ounce per month) you'd make $10,000 every 2.5 months. That is exactly $1000/week (which equates to a taxed salary of about $75,000). That's not bad...

I would think the few more patients you could pull would make up for any loss in revenue. Even if you don't want to do the full oz, maybe try a free 1/2 OR OZ every 3rd month and 1/2s or 1/4s the other months. This might be more appealing to people....

Do you get much response on CL? Do people want to see your warez?

everything u said even as neg as it was pointing your finger at me.i have done.i have offered 1oz per month + bubble hash and you know what the response is? i want 2 oz's a month and 125 oz's.so go fig.... nice trying to tell me how to rum my life btw.go be happy and go pay the shop prices they pay 250 to 300 per from growers"the ones you and pfunk think are rip offs"then they sell it back to you for double..makes sense to me.

[FarmerSteve]

Look, I have NEVER claimed to know anything about the business, BUT, BUT, BUT, it does NOT need to be this expensive. PaleRider, I do understand what you're saying about money and people, something always gets jacked.

Like I said, I know it's a pipe dream. Either way, at the end of the day, it's going to be me growing for the wife and I in the garage.