Quote Originally Posted by redtails
I've had pretty good results myself with them, but with the crappy penetration and low intensity you have to get creative to get near the yield of an HID. Here's one I finished around new years, all fluoro grow:
Did you LST that? Looks great!:thumbsup:

I have a switchable 400w for overhead light and the t5 for side light.

I have heard that the t5 is the ultimate veg bulb.
With 8 bulbs I get 40k lumens vs. 32k with the 400w mh.