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    #21
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    Video by Jeff Weiss, school shooter.

    Saw some of it and was not convinced to be hoenst.

    Before you call be a whiny liberal (*joke dude!*), there were a lot of salient points in that film, but I take Mr Moorese stuff with a pinch of salt, and I can do without his attempted-tear-jerking. My main reason for posting that comment is that here in the UK, gun crime compared to the US is way down, and guess what, guns are not common place.
    That and it just seems pretty darn obvious to me - dont have guns around, people dont get needlessly killed. Ipso facto.

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    #22
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    Video by Jeff Weiss, school shooter.

    i agree,none of my family in England have guns,my aunt had a heart attack when she heard my mother had bought a derringer 22.but still,it's our right and always will be.i don't disagree that there needs to be tighter laws
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    #23
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    Video by Jeff Weiss, school shooter.

    But what relevnace has a 200+ year old document written during the time of a civil war have on todays modern America?

    Right to bear arms? In this day and age?

    Your relatives in the UK wont have guns for one very good reason (other than thei obvious intelligence) : they're illeagal without appropriate permissions etc etc


    I've been most of the way over America, met a lot of people, and currently I work with people from all over the place. The people I met when I ws travelling (especially when I was in Utah actually, and some guy that was working the station in Key Largo) were the reasons why guns should be scrapped. You know, extra finger, always drooling a bit.....

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    #24
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    Video by Jeff Weiss, school shooter.

    are you a rascist?people in England are smarter than the rest of the world?that two hundred year old document is one of the reasons we are the most powerful nations on the face of the earth.not to mention the best.why do you think so many people risk their lives to come here.
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    #25
    Member

    Video by Jeff Weiss, school shooter.

    Hey you guuuuys!

    Quote Originally Posted by Funken Monken
    But what relevnace has a 200+ year old document written during the time of a civil war have on todays modern America?
    I know, seriously. Freedom of Speech?! Freedom from Illegal Search and Seizure?! The Abolition of Slavery?!!?!?!? What the fuck do we still need these for?!?!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by amsterdam
    i don't disagree that there needs to be tighter laws...
    And since the second amendment states that CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW preventing a citizen from bearing arms, then I guess you really DON'T believe in the second amendment the way it stands.

    The correct answer: break a gun law = mandatory life sentence, no parole. I currently see no problem with this.

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    #26
    Senior Member

    Video by Jeff Weiss, school shooter.

    Quote Originally Posted by amsterdam
    that two hundred year old document is one of the reasons we are the most powerful nations on the face of the earth.
    Ahmen to that.

    Quote Originally Posted by bloke
    The correct answer: break a gun law = mandatory life sentence, no parole. I currently see no problem with this.
    So you're basically guaranteeing that when the cops come to arrest someone for having a gun, there is going to be a gunfight. I know I would be willing to shoot my out rather than be falsely imprisoned for life. That law might even make me invest in a few hand grenades... I say that if there was an armed person in places like schools, banks, hospitals, etc.. there would less stuff like this school shooting. Other than that stuff, almost all gun violence in the US is commited in the inner-city ghettos.

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    #27
    Senior Member

    Video by Jeff Weiss, school shooter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bloke
    Hey you guuuuys!


    I know, seriously. Freedom of Speech?! Freedom from Illegal Search and Seizure?! The Abolition of Slavery?!!?!?!? What the fuck do we still need these for?!?!?!


    And since the second amendment states that CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW preventing a citizen from bearing arms, then I guess you really DON'T believe in the second amendment the way it stands.

    The correct answer: break a gun law = mandatory life sentence, no parole. I currently see no problem with this.


    mandatory life sentence????get real!!for a weapon??child molestation yes,a gun never.
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    #28
    Member

    Video by Jeff Weiss, school shooter.

    Quote Originally Posted by smokinindausa
    So you're basically guaranteeing that when the cops come to arrest someone for having a gun, there is going to be a gunfight. I know I would be willing to shoot my out rather than be falsely imprisoned for life. That law might even make me invest in a few hand grenades... I say that if there was an armed person in places like schools, banks, hospitals, etc.. there would less stuff like this school shooting. Other than that stuff, almost all gun violence in the US is commited in the inner-city ghettos.
    I was sort of being exaggerating to advance my point, but I assume you own your gun legally. And gun owners are always harping on about how crimes with guns aren't commited by people who LEGALLY own them, they're mostly done with stolen or unregistered guns. So, if one is caught with a stolen and/or unregistered gun, how much time do they do under current law? Do they even go to jail in all cases? Should they? Aren't these the people giving legal gun owners such as yourself a bad name? The admittedly trite saying goes "if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns"... but if outlaws with guns are imprisoned, then wouldn't only fine upstanding flag-waving americans have guns and the problem is solved? Discuss.

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    #29
    Senior Member

    Video by Jeff Weiss, school shooter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bloke
    I'll bet dollars to donuts that most of you guys who weren't busy slapping each other's asses in the locker room had some pretty fucking violent imaginations too.
    lol, i didn't. i'm a pussy pacifist liberal, lol

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    #30
    Senior Member

    Video by Jeff Weiss, school shooter.

    Quote Originally Posted by amsterdam
    are you a rascist?people in England are smarter than the rest of the world?that two hundred year old document is one of the reasons we are the most powerful nations on the face of the earth.not to mention the best.why do you think so many people risk their lives to come here.
    Jesus, learn to read will you.

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