GOD CREATED ALL OF THIS!

[BlueBlazer]

...remember the human mind is way more powerful than modern science can quantify right now and we could just MAKE a god for ourselves with OUR minds...lol
have fuun
-J

There is an excellent trilogy of books that deals with just that subject. It's called The Hammer and the Cross by Harry Harrison. It's about the clash between the gods of the Norse and Yahweh in post-Roman Britain. I highly recommend it, but not necessarily for Christians as it would probably make them angry.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

Religion is anti knowledge.

the lessons we can learn from religion are of an ethical nature and, while remembering that morality is not the sole domain of religion, they should not be discounted entirely. the virtues of charity, sacrifice and duty that are extolled throughout many sacred texts should be used to temper the harsh realities of science. though such virtues may be derived from other sources, for many religion is the main example through which their morality is formed. damning religion entirely for the abuses and ignorance of the few is as disingenuous as refusing science for its clinical outlook.

[chris62008]

the lessons we can learn from religion are of an ethical nature and, while remembering that morality is not the sole domain of religion, they should not be discounted entirely. the virtues of charity, sacrifice and duty that are extolled throughout many sacred texts should be used to temper the harsh realities of science. though such virtues may be derived from other sources, for many religion is the main example through which their morality is formed. damning religion entirely for the abuses and ignorance of the few is as disingenuous as refusing science for its clinical outlook.

say what you want and try and hide behind all your big words. but simply put. SCIENCE PROVES there is something that created us... you can trace it all the way back to DNA... and YES, DNA WAS CREATED, not just magically appeared. Most of the smartest and famous scientist will even come to grips... THIS WAS NO ACCIDENT... WE WERE CREATED!!!

A wise man knows he knows nothing! I will leave you atheists with that!!!

[hazetwostep]

yo man stop being so defensive. lol. I never called your life worthless.. YOU DID!!!!! Believing that you are just here, to be here, is totally blunt. You might as well say "MY LIFE IS WORTHLESS!!!" and that is what you said. That theres really NO reason for us to live... so our lives our WORTHLESS??? hmmm I THINK NOT!!!!!

well then since i did not say my life is worthless since that is the furthest thing from what i feel... you should re-read what i wrote and try again on your assumptions. i didn't say there is no reason to live. i gave you many reasons why i believe life is the greatest thing.

to assume life is worthless because we don't live forever... i don't follow your logic at all. i guess belief is a better word since it is not logical but purely emotional.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

THIS WAS NO ACCIDENT... WE WERE CREATED!!!

so we have come full circle, as such discussions always do. that a mind designed to recognize patterns might find patterns all around is taken as proof of some intelligent designer. our hubris, in anthropomorphizing the world around us, leads us to imagine a sentience behind all of the variables that have led to life. if these fantasies were not so wide spread they would be considered nothing more than the delusions of a tin foil clad conspiracy nut.

[BlueBlazer]

the lessons we can learn from religion are of an ethical nature and, while remembering that morality is not the sole domain of religion, they should not be discounted entirely. the virtues of charity, sacrifice and duty that are extolled throughout many sacred texts should be used to temper the harsh realities of science. though such virtues may be derived from other sources, for many religion is the main example through which their morality is formed. damning religion entirely for the abuses and ignorance of the few is as disingenuous as refusing science for its clinical outlook.

I didn't mean that religion had no knowledge, however, moral knowledge is something that every thinking being has anyway IMHO. Religion encourages it's followers to not let anything interfere with their faith. Passively, they encourage followers to ignore any information that gives doubts (i.e. - practically anything not church approved). More aggressive practices involve trying to ban certain books, music, arts, etc.

[chris62008]

I didn't mean that religion had no knowledge, however, moral knowledge is something that every thinking being has anyway IMHO. Religion encourages it's followers to not let anything interfere with their faith. Passively, they encourage followers to ignore any information that gives doubts (i.e. - practically anything not church approved). More aggressive practices involve trying to ban certain books, music, arts, etc.

Well buddy I have not banned ANYTHING AT ALL in my knowledge. NO BOOKS, MUSIC, ARTS, etc. and neither did guys like Einstein, Newton, Yockey, etc. ALL came up with pretty much the same conclusion... WE WERE CREATED... According to "natural laws" of science that we LIVE by today, it's techniclly IMPOSSIBLE for this to be some random sort of accident... DNA was CREATED and this universe was "fine tuned" SO much that it is IMPOSSIBLE for it to be some sort of random act... IT IS HUMANLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR THIS UNIVERSE and DNA to create itself!!!! You might wanna look some of this stuff up before trying to argue about it... Just face the music all you atheists... there IS something "greater" than yourself out there... SCIENCE even proves it

[BlueBlazer]

Well buddy I have not banned ANYTHING AT ALL in my knowledge. NO BOOKS, MUSIC, ARTS, etc. and neither did guys like Einstein, Newton, Yockey, etc. ALL came up with pretty much the same conclusion... WE WERE CREATED... According to "natural laws" of science that we LIVE by today, it's techniclly IMPOSSIBLE for this to be some random sort of accident... DNA was CREATED and this universe was "fine tuned" SO much that it is IMPOSSIBLE for it to be some sort of random act... IT IS HUMANLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR THIS UNIVERSE and DNA to create itself!!!! You might wanna look some of this stuff up before trying to argue about it... Just face the music all you atheists... there IS something "greater" than yourself out there... SCIENCE even proves it

First of all, I never said you personally banned anything, however your religion is another matter. I won't try to reason with you any further, because you aren't interested in reason. You are either a completely gone zealot or a troll. Either way there is nothing to be gained.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P47OC439x88

[chris62008]

First of all, I never said you personally banned anything, however your religion is another matter. I won't try to reason with you any further, because you aren't interested in reason. You are either a completely gone zealot or a troll. Either way there is nothing to be gained.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P47OC439x88

HAHA!!! I WIN!!! I FINALLY WIN!!! I will definitly remember this moment for a while!!!!! It just feels so good! I gotta celebrate :jointsmile:

[mainegrown]

uh huh... u win.... cause everyone thinks you are being number then a pounded thumb. great victory to remember.
-J