Quote Originally Posted by chris62008
Even some of the "smartest" naturalists will concede that, even they, don't know what created life.
admitting what you don't know is the beginning of wisdom. those who blindly claim that creation is the domain of a god can never hope to rise above their own preconceptions, they can only feign wisdom as they wallow in their ignorance.

They are just left talking in circles about how things just magically create themselves.
magic? magic is the bailiwick of the religious and the "spiritually" obsessed. what may appear magical to us now might be explained tomorrow and seem mundane the following week. if the term magic can be applied to anything, it is the fantasy of gods and the miraculous nature of religion.