GOD CREATED ALL OF THIS!

[hazetwostep]

hahahaha... heard you on the blazer!:thumbsup:

[chris62008]

blueblazer... funny video link! good stuff...

as far as arguing with religious folks who use logic like "i don't understand this so it must be god..." there is no reasoning with them. they are essentially the same people who said science was crazy by claiming that the earth is not the center of the universe, that the sun overhead was a god riding a chariot, that jesus christ was coming again in the year 2000, etc...

i have learned to let them live in their constricted little worlds of narrow rules and views that make them feel safe about the fact that death is coming for them and there is no way around... let's make up a fairytale about a nice place in the sky that makes us not feel scared.

the greatest hypocrisy is that most of these people say they believe and follow jesus and by reading through their posts i can clearly see that they understand NOTHING about what jesus was about.

this is from over twenty years of formerly following christianity which led me to attend seminary which led me to actually study the bible for myself and not just listen to people tell me on sunday's what it said. 3 years of seminary and studying the bible clearly led me to see that it is just another attempt of humankind to understand the unknown.

it has good ideas like "love your neighbor as yourself" and crappy ideas like the many places it condones slavery and sexist treatment of women. if you give it a true study, you will see it is the work of humankind through and through.

The funny thing is you cannot PROVE with science that there isn't a God, and I can PROVE there is! ... with DNA for example!

[BlueBlazer]

The funny thing is you cannot PROVE with science that there isn't a God, and I can PROVE there is! ... with DNA for example!

What's that? Did I hear a troll just now?

[hazetwostep]

The funny thing is you cannot PROVE with science that there isn't a God, and I can PROVE there is! ... with DNA for example!

you can prove it??? wow, i stand corrected then in that case but i am surprised that you are not a bit more famous for finding hard scientific data like that and not just personal opinion like most religious people argue with statements like "wow, this is so complex then it must have been made by god."

could you explain a bit about DNA to me and how you found something that no other scientist has found yet??? if they did i am sure it would be a big deal and have headlines on every newspaper and news channel saying something like...

"Scientist Found DNA 100% Proves God Exists! The great debate is now done!"

must have missed that one! ((cough cough))

TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL

now did that magic DNA also tell you which religion's god is the one real god??? christian, muslim, wicka, etc??? you have me hanging on the edge of my intellectual seat! :rasta:

[BlueBlazer]

now did that magic DNA also tell you which religion's god is the one real god??? christian, muslim, wicka, etc??? you have me hanging on the edge of my intellectual seat! :rasta:

I told you man, DNA has proven Bacchus is the real god.

Humans are hardwired in their DNA to want to party down and Bacchus is the party god, so . . .




As soon as I publish my findings, you'll see some pretty interesting headlines. :stoned:

[chris62008]

Today, many religious denominations accept that biological evolution has produced the diversity of living things over billions of years of Earthâ??s history. Many have issued statements observing that evolution and the tenets of their faiths are compatible. Scientists and theologians have written eloquently about their awe and wonder at the history of the universe and of life on this planet, explaining that they see no conflict between their faith in God and the evidence for evolution. Religious denominations that do not accept the occurrence of evolution tend to be those that believe in strictly literal interpretations of religious texts. â?�
â??Science, Evolution, and Creationism, National Academy of Sciences[10]

i'm not trying to argue that evolution doesn't exist and never has! I'm just letting you guys know that it was DESIGNED to happen. It does'nt happen randomly. AT ALL!!! NEVER!!!!

[chris62008]

now did that magic DNA also tell you which religion's god is the one real god??? christian, muslim, wicka, etc??? you have me hanging on the edge of my intellectual seat! :rasta:

no the DNA doesnt' tell you that. The HOLY BIBLE tells you that.. and the Holy Bible is actually verrryy acurate when it comes to science today my freind

[BlueBlazer]

Back to your bridge you evil troll. You have no power here . . .

[psychocat]

My response is that when Creationists talk about God creating every individual species as a separate act, they always instance hummingbirds, or orchids, sunflowers and beautiful things. But I tend to think instead of a parasitic worm that is boring through the eye of a boy sitting on the bank of a river in West Africa, [a worm] that's going to make him blind. And [I ask them], 'Are you telling me that the God you believe in, who you also say is an all-merciful God, who cares for each one of us individually, are you saying that God created this worm that can live in no other way than in an innocent child's eyeball? Because that doesn't seem to me to coincide with a God who's full of mercy'

David Attenborough :thumbsup:

[Delta9 UK]

i'm not trying to argue that evolution doesn't exist and never has! I'm just letting you guys know that it was DESIGNED to happen. It does'nt happen randomly. AT ALL!!! NEVER!!!!

CORRECT! Chris this is the first accurate thing you've said - indeed it doesn't happen randomly - and here is where you show your true ignorance of the theory.

I'm going to guess you haven't studied biological evolution, specifically natural selection and genetics - if you did you would know it isn't random - not at all. Lets go to school....

Natural selection is driven by the environment - it literally 'selects' the best ('fittest' if you like) life form - which through the nature of its 'success' is able to pass on those genes. As the environment changes so do selection pressures which 'choose' the best organism for the environment at that time. No organism is good/bad or better/worse it all depends on the environment at the time.

As the environment changes continually and mutagenic changes work their way into an organisms' genome you have the mechanism for evolution. That isn't random at all - the 'guiding hand' is the environment.

On the subject of DNA Iâ??ll come out and say it: DNA did not give rise to the first life. Yikes! like nobody thought that before. DNA has no way of being part of the very first life form because DNA makes RNA make protein makes DNA. Without proteins, you canâ??t make more DNA.

By itself, DNA is relatively inert. It doesnâ??t do anything special unless thereâ??s the cellular framework around to utilise the information encoded within its nucleotide sequence. As such, DNA could not have existed in the first organism.

But doesnâ??t this falsify Darwinian evolution? Uh, no, it doesnâ??t. The main reason is that evolution doesnâ??t predict that DNA was present in the first lifeform at all. This was simply something that scientists thought could be true, but the mechanisms of mutation and natural selection do not in any conceivable way hinge on DNA being present in the first lifeform. As such, itâ??s not a prediction made by evolutionary theory, and its falsification has no bearing on the truth of evolution.

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